ErnieW
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Post by ErnieW on Apr 26, 2024 5:43:05 GMT -8
I dream of getting a freeze dryer. I've been thinking about how I would package up meals. One of my concerns is portion size. In commercial packages they usually come in one or two person sizes. I find the one person too little and the two person a bit too much for just me. I'm curious how others feel about this and how they handle it.
Also I thought about O2 absorbers. If I had a freeze dryer then I would pack up the food just before the hike and won't really need them (I think). I don't have any O2 absorbers outside of my sealed meals. Does anyone know how much they weigh? If you're carrying let's say 5 FD meals are they a significant part of the garbage weight beside the mylar bags?
Since I have been making commercial FD meals in their mylar bags I have found I don't need something to insulate while the food is "cooking". They seem to keep heat in well. I'm looking at saving a mylar FD dinner bag to use to keep meals in my homemade vacuum sealed bags warm while they cook. What do others do about this?
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Post by dustin on Apr 26, 2024 12:39:44 GMT -8
I truly don't know the advantages of FD over dehydrated. What are the biggest reasons to FD? Also, is there any way to use the freeze drier for any other purpose? I can use my toaster oven as a dehydrator, air fryer... which helps justify the purchase.
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Post by va3pinner on Apr 26, 2024 17:28:40 GMT -8
I've started using mylar bags for my meals. Wallaby Mylar MRE pouches www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09DFPVF1F/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1They seal well, can handle boiling water, and can be reused several times. I used to do a lot of 'freezer bag cooking', but have gotten away from using plastic as much as possible.Not too much heavier than a plastic bag. I'll take the trade off. Most of the food is from the grocery store (Knorr soups and other quick-cook stuff). Also, for years I have always carried a bit of either instant potatoes or a good quality instant (or quick cooking) rice as a 'filler' if my FD meal isn't big enough. Packit Gourmet is a favorite FD for me, but they're never enough.
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Post by BigLoad on Apr 26, 2024 18:10:09 GMT -8
I truly don't know the advantages of FD over dehydrated. What are the biggest reasons to FD? Also, is there any way to use the freeze drier for any other purpose? I can use my toaster oven as a dehydrator, air fryer... which helps justify the purchase. The biggest advantage of FD is that it can preserve more of the original flavor and texture of many things better than dehydrating. Soft fruits and vegetables are a good example. However, most people would consider it too costly, especially if the equipment would be used only for backpacking.
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Post by rebeccad on Apr 27, 2024 6:23:50 GMT -8
I agree about the portions. When I use commercial FD meals (I make most of my own, but do buy some FD ingredients), I usually try to buy 2, 2-serving packages. Out of those alleged 4 servings, I make 3. That’s a lot of fussing. I like my own meals better as a general rule, since I can season them to my taste. Of course, sometimes I screw that up, too. On my latest trip I wanted a LOT more salt, which has me thinking I need to carry some salt packets, or a back of bacon bits :D
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ErnieW
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Post by ErnieW on Apr 27, 2024 10:21:42 GMT -8
For a while I was buying #10 cans of Mountain House meals then dividing them up into sizes I liked. Definitely a bit of fussing. I'd empty the whole can out and weigh the total. I figure out how many meals it will be. I put out that number of mason jars (usually wide mouth pint). Then I divide up the big chunks as evenly as possible followed by the veggies and dust. I weight them to make sure they are about even then vacuum seal them in the Mason jars. I move them to vacuum bags for the trail leaving enough room for the water and to fold the top down while "cooking" Why all this this fuss? At least before the pandemic I got meals sized right for me at 1/2 to 1/3 of the prepackaged price.
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Post by ErnieW on Apr 27, 2024 11:00:37 GMT -8
I just checked prices on some #10 cans and inflation and fear haven't been kind.
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Post by swiftdream on Apr 27, 2024 11:21:38 GMT -8
We’ve had an All American Sun Oven for years and use it about eight months of the year. In the hot months it saves 10% off our entire energy bill for running the house, doesn’t use electricity and doesn’t heat up the house like an indoor oven which must be cooled off with the HVAC using more energy It achieves 350° to 400° easily on a sunny day and even cooks on a day with high clouds as long as one can see a shadow. We roasted a leg of lamb last week, enough to feed us for three weeks and regularly roast whole chickens and what have you. It works well for dehydrating too using only solar energy. It can achieve lower temperature for that via several means. The solar oven is silent which I like but our Excalibur has to be used in the garage as I can’t stand the unrelenting, droning noise.
I don’t mind packaging in freezer bags but refuse to cook in plastic of any kind. Titanium works well for rehydrating and we have a multitude of those from 400 ml up to 6 liters. That bigger pot is what we use when roasting lamb and chicken.
If anyone knows of any freeze dried keto friendly meals I would be most interested in the details. Otherwise it will remain a do it yourself thing.
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Post by sarbar on May 4, 2024 14:56:41 GMT -8
If anyone knows of any freeze dried keto friendly meals Wild Zora. Next Mile Meals.
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Post by sarbar on May 4, 2024 15:07:42 GMT -8
I could wax on all day long about freeze-drying and dehydration. I am sure I am one of the few with a Harvest Right machine here. As for sealing, yes, the MRE style Wallaby bags are great. We have an Avid Armor sealer for our bags. Why go home when you can go big? Hehehehehe. I write a lot about it on TrailCooking, and sometimes when I have time, I shoot reels as well.
The investment into a freeze-dryer is steep. For us it wasn't about cost. It was rather I could freeze-dry whatever I wanted. There's many things you cannot buy commercially FD, even when buying from Thrive Life. Like I really love Swiss cheese FD. Buying it? Nope. Same with sliced black olives, artichoke hearts, pumpkin pie and so on. We also have a small farm and do dehydrate what we grow. I can FD red onions, sweet onions, the apples we grow, heirloom strawberries (that you cannot buy in stores).
So for us the numbers made sense. As always, your mileage may vary.
Video is of using an Avid Armor sealer.
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Post by swiftdream on May 4, 2024 17:37:02 GMT -8
If anyone knows of any freeze dried keto friendly meals Wild Zora. Next Mile Meals. Thanks! I’ve actually tried a 6 package Wild Zorra soups but forgot about it. I will look into both Wild Zora and Next Mile Meals.
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