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Post by downriver on Jan 28, 2024 15:08:46 GMT -8
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Westy
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Post by Westy on Jan 29, 2024 5:19:13 GMT -8
I'm a fan of trad climbing. Here in the Wasatch, historical traditional routes are over bolted to reduce lead time required for the route. Convenience and disrespect for routes like Beckey's Wall. Some routes get bolted at the traditional crux thus detracting from the original ascent. I get the concept of sport climbing...but it has morphed into bolts galore everywhere. I say ban new bolts in wilderness areas. Stop the carnage!
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Post by absarokanaut on Jan 29, 2024 9:34:40 GMT -8
Mountain Bikers, Climbers...why can't they abide by the wilderness act like the rest of us?
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Post by marmotstew on Jan 29, 2024 9:44:10 GMT -8
Can’t say I’ve seen any of that stuff in wilderness areas. I think most people in Colorado front range climb at, am I saying this right, “Eldo” and the flat irons. But I’m not a climber so what do I know? But I know a guy who’s hung out with Alex Honnold. So I got that going for me.
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ErnieW
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Post by ErnieW on Jan 29, 2024 12:50:52 GMT -8
I'm not a climber so maybe someone can answer this question. Can you trust protection that was put in place by someone else possibly a long time ago?
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Post by balzaccom on Jan 29, 2024 14:12:49 GMT -8
I'm not a climber so maybe someone can answer this question. Can you trust protection that was put in place by someone else possibly a long time ago? Exactly. And how do you know how long it has been there? One thing I do know about climbing. Do not, I repeat, do NOT use the hole in a hanger as a finger hold. |
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Post by nickhowes on Jan 29, 2024 15:46:56 GMT -8
Can you trust protection that was put in place by someone else possibly a long time ago? Like everything in climbing, you have to evaluate the situation. When I used to climb (long ago), I did trad climbing mostly on multi-pitch routes. So we mostly brought and used our own pro, but there were often bolts at rap points. Most of them were good, but some looked iffy - and debates ensued. Luckily we never had a failure or even a near-failure, but folks have died on occasion. |
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Post by hikerjer on Jan 29, 2024 17:56:53 GMT -8
I’m not a climber, so I can hardly comment on the technical aspects of the sport. However, as an avid supporter of wilderness, I have a hard time seeing how leaving bolts in a mountain complies with the leave no trace concept. Simply should not have been allowed, IMO.
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