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Post by downriver on Jan 24, 2024 20:50:21 GMT -8
Outdoor gear and apparel makers spend a lot of money on R&D on their rain gear, jackets and parka fabrics. Do you follow their recommendations on how, how often and what to use when cleaning your gear? Many longtime gear sellers I talk with almost always emphasize following the recommendations on cleaning your outerwear. I spent part of Monday washing gear as we’ve had a lot of winter here lately. I think my Montbell jacket looks even better now than when I purchased it. DR Regards, DR
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Post by leadbelly on Jan 25, 2024 13:58:19 GMT -8
Down, rarely. Hard shells, waterproof/breathable, more often, with some kind of tech wash from REI & following instructions - it both helps keep the tiny pores clean that allow water vapor to move out & recharges the durable water repellent coating; a wet outer layer that doesn't bead water also won't let vapor escape.
i don't re-charge DWR coatings with something like Nikwax on any schedule, but I do use it if rain isn't beading up on a jacket that's been washed/dried recently.
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Post by reuben on Jan 25, 2024 14:58:36 GMT -8
Pretty much never. Just hanging them up somewhere out of the way and letting them laze in the breeze for a few days will take any stink out (to my insensitive nose). Fabric durability hasn't been a problem, either.
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Post by tallgrass on Jan 25, 2024 18:31:37 GMT -8
How is the proper way to wash down? Even getting it wet terrifies me.
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Post by downriver on Jan 25, 2024 19:30:27 GMT -8
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Post by ErnieW on Jan 25, 2024 21:26:20 GMT -8
I don't think I would ever use a top loader for anything down. Too rough on the baffles. I'm not a fan of top loader for any washing.
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Post by BigLoad on Jan 25, 2024 21:46:08 GMT -8
Apart from spot cleaning, I wash down or synthetic puffy items as infrequently as possible, guided mainly by loss of loft or loss of DWR.
I steam wool clothing once in a while, which greatly increases how long it can go between washing or dry cleaning. I've gotten pretty good at removing stains from wool clothes myself, although it's time consuming.
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Post by downriver on Jan 25, 2024 23:34:29 GMT -8
I don't think I would ever use a top loader for anything down. Too rough on the baffles. I'm not a fan of top loader for any washing. I was very hesitant when I first did this. Not anymore. I haven’t had any problems washing my down and synthetic jackets. Very gentle cycle. No damage to jackets, no loss of down or synthetic fill. I will not wash my sleeping bag at home, though. It goes to the front loader at the laundromat (or hand-wash it). Regards, DR
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Post by downriver on Jan 25, 2024 23:35:55 GMT -8
More reading: There is a common misconception that washing your shell ruins the DWR when, more often than not, the real culprit is not washing it. Whenever someone calls about their jacket wetting out, my first question is always “When was the last time you washed it?” The answer almost always: “Never.” eu.patagonia.com/cy/en/stories/the-care-feedin/story-20267.html
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Post by ErnieW on Jan 26, 2024 4:40:46 GMT -8
With Nikwax as the system, which OR recommends as the product for my Foray, it is a two step process. First get the garment clean then a second round where the DWR is done. Makes sense to me that you won't want to DWR in dirt to the pores.
I still do try to keep washing to a minimum. I did it recently when it when my Foray was really wetting out (but not leaking at all)
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Post by leadbelly on Jan 26, 2024 9:11:59 GMT -8
Old top loaders with an agitator in the middle (corkscrew thing sticking up) can damage baffles in down garments, quilts, sleeping bags. Modern top-loaders run on gentle are fine for down things.
I second the advice about using down wash - recommend running an extra rinse cycle, because down wash (nikwax is what i use too) can leave a mild but peculiar odor. Tennis balls or dryer balls help loosen up clumps of down in the dryer; use lower heat/longer dry times to avoid damaging the shell fabric.
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Jan 26, 2024 16:56:55 GMT -8
Synthetics quite often, though I’m a little iffy on my alpha direct and octa garments (have the special bag from Senchi that is supposed to stop microplastics from getting into the water). Down? I worry about clumping, though I’ll clean it when it gets too nasty with dirt and body oil (some reports show a weight gain due to “oz of grime”).
Doing more 2-season ish trips now, so synthetics rule the roost, but when I slow down, down rules for lower temp insulation.,
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Post by stevet on Jan 26, 2024 20:24:09 GMT -8
Down and synthetic jackets, generally once per year in late spring. That sets me up for summer and fall in the mountains. I use nikwax products in a front load washing machine. Since I have just 2 jackets they get worn >100 days per year and if not for loft, then I wash for stink.
Sleeping bag may get washed every 3-4 years. Depends usage, measured by stink. I get more stink than loft loss. Sleeping bag is hand washed in the bathtub with nikwax downwash then a bazillion rinses. Tumble dry on the air setting for a few hours, let set out, then back in the dryer. Takes a few days to get completely dry.
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Post by bpdanyel on Jan 26, 2024 21:47:21 GMT -8
I don’t wash my jackets on a fixed schedule, I only wash them when they have an odor that I don’t want others to notice. I use the washing machine or steam cleaner, depending on the fabric.
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