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Post by tbessie on Sept 25, 2023 19:08:03 GMT -8
Hi all...
I just signed up for this forum, as it seemed to have people discussing some of the kinds of things I'm interested in.
What brought me here is, I'm trying to winnow down my camping gear (have too much from years ago).
One of the things I have is a Marmot sleeping bag (Gore Tex, down, semi-rec) which I think I bought in the mid-90s (the label just says "Marmot / State of the Sport / Colorado USA", no actual marmots on it like older labels).
I wrote to Marmot to ask if they have a list of the names of their old models that would match this description, and they wrote back, telling me they have no such list. Kind of hard to believe they don't have any person or documentation there that would have that info, but there you go.
I SEEM to remember this model was called by the name of some type of rodent... eg. "Badger". But looking at photos of that model, it doesn't look like mine.
Does anybody here remember the names of Marmot Gore Tex sleeping bags of that vintage? I can post photos if that would help. :-)
- Tim
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Post by tigger on Sept 26, 2023 10:37:15 GMT -8
Yes, post a photo. We have enough old-timers/Gear addicts here that someone will probably recognize it.
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Post by tbessie on Sept 26, 2023 13:35:53 GMT -8
Ok, here's some photos of the sleeping bag. If anyone needs some specific photos, let me know! - Tim
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Post by ErnieW on Sept 26, 2023 15:53:05 GMT -8
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Post by tbessie on Sept 26, 2023 15:57:19 GMT -8
ErnieW - thanks for the link. Back in 1977 I was only 13 and hadn't yet started buying my own camping gear, so this was way later (I'm pretty sure mid-90s). Maybe I should look through every year's catalog; do you know if every catalog is available out there? - Tim
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Post by ErnieW on Sept 26, 2023 16:31:15 GMT -8
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Post by jazzmom on Sept 26, 2023 17:58:50 GMT -8
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Post by marmotstew on Sept 28, 2023 3:41:53 GMT -8
That looks similar to my Marmot sawtooth 15 degree bag bought in 1998. It was a great bag honorably discharged for car camping now. Don’t think it says anything about Colorado. Won’t be home for some days I’ll check when I get back. Although the label could be worn off by now.
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Post by ErnieW on Sept 28, 2023 5:55:51 GMT -8
Back in 1977 I was only 13 P.S. Welcome to the forum youngster
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Sept 29, 2023 18:01:18 GMT -8
Just to double check have you fully inspected the interior of the bag for a label? Because my mid nineties Marmot Couloir has its model on a tag along the inside.
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Post by BigLoad on Sept 29, 2023 18:36:05 GMT -8
Just to double check have you fully inspected the interior of the bag for a label? Because my mid nineties Marmot Couloir has its model on a tag along the inside. That was a really nice bag.
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Post by BigLoad on Sept 29, 2023 18:36:16 GMT -8
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Sept 29, 2023 20:12:40 GMT -8
It is. I’m not a fan of shelters unless there’s precipitation so I tend to over bag. The follow up to that one is a Western Mountaineering Gore Windstopper Antelope.
I figure I can make just about any sleep system inefficient (one August in Yosemite valley I used the Marmot overnight when the daytime highs were clearing 100F, I’d flown in so my only gear was for the high country backpack… I’d made do. Iirc it mostly was draped over my shins. lol. Now making a system warmer? Past a certain point ain’t gonna happen.
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Post by leadbelly on Oct 2, 2023 6:23:04 GMT -8
I'm not surprised Marmot lacks good records. The brand has been sold, re-sold, spun off, like so many such companies. I would just post photos and call it 'vintage Marmot down sleeping bag,' thoroughly describe its condition and how you have maintained it (stored in a loose bag, ever laundered, etc., which I would want to know), and attempt to re-sell somewhere like Geartrade or Craigslist.
Marmot is now owned by Newell Brands, along with Bubba, Coleman, Ex Officio, CampingGaz (and brands for coffee makers, pens, glue....). Not sure whether or how that has affected brand quality, but I no longer think of the company as one of the leaders/innovators for outdoor gear. More carrying forward designs that have been around for a while, capitalizing on the name. It's unfortunate; in the past, I wore a good gore tex shell from Marmot, and my three season bag for years was a Sawtooth (mummy bag, 600 fill power down, rated to 15 degrees). Durable, well-performing gear. Bought a pair of their guide gloves a few years ago, and that was a mistake; quality had really declined, they were trashed in a year.
A couple of years ago, I hunted for what happened to Wilderness Experience, who made my first internal frame backpack. all that was left was a Kickstarter reboot to sell a reissue of the klettersack day pack - leather patch lash points, cordura nylon, etc. checked again, and it appears they still had some stock, all half-price. i just bought one of those reissue packs for half price, about $60 - it's a bit like the Cold Cold World pack I now use as my ultimate small beat-it-to-death daypack. i did the same in the past 3-5 years with an LL Bean nylon anorak - plain windbreaker with leather tabs on the hood cords, baggy throw-it-on shell. i used to ski in one of these a lot. not as functional as, say, a Patagonia Houdini, but I like the retro cool factor when they reissue gear like this and do it right.
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Post by tbessie on Oct 3, 2023 10:47:09 GMT -8
Thanks everyone for all your suggestions and discussion. To ErnieW - thanks, I don't feel that young ;-) High Sierra Fan I didn't find any labels inside the bag, which is why it was somewhat confounding. The bag had probably been washed 3 or 4 times, I'd guess. The last time I washed it I think I didn't knock out all the clotted balls of down, but it was mostly in good shape. I was going to keep it until I identified the year and model (as close as I could), but then I ran into a homeless guy who lives around my neighborhood (I'm in San Francisco). He keeps things together as well as one could being homeless (his "camp" is always neat and tidy, he cleans up other people's stuff, sweeps the sidewalks, etc), and also I knew him loooong ago when he was gainfully employed as a local bartender. Friendly fellow. Anyway, the city had recently carted away all his stuff while he was away watching a football game at a bar, so I gave him the bag, thinking he needed it more than I did. Hopefully he makes good use out of it! :-) - Tim
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