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Post by trinity on Aug 11, 2023 10:18:02 GMT -8
One of my favorite sources of information about stove performance, Jon Fong, made this video showing the effects of wind on some popular canister stoves. I think it is quite good, and very eye-opening. Note also that Jon's company, Flat Cat Gear, makes some really excellent windscreens for most ot these stove models.
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Post by cweston on Aug 11, 2023 13:12:10 GMT -8
Interesting.
I'm still carrying a relatively heavy Primus dual-fuel stove. I haven't used it with anything other than a canister for years, but I do like the remote canister configuration for pot stability and the ease of using a traditional cheap aluminum wind screen.
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Post by oldbill on Aug 11, 2023 14:26:40 GMT -8
Nice find. Especially when 8 mph is just a mild breeze! Made a wind screen for my Pocket Rocket using a template I found, but setting it up was tedious. I went back to building a windscreen with whatever rocks are around.
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Post by driftwoody on Aug 11, 2023 15:04:19 GMT -8
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Post by oldbill on Aug 13, 2023 4:33:14 GMT -8
That's a nice screen. The Pocket Rocket doesn't have anything at the base to help hold the screen. Have to connect to the pot holders which was tedious using paper clips. However, maybe someone has a more elegant solution than what I was able to find.
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Post by trinity on Aug 13, 2023 6:06:08 GMT -8
The Pocket Rocket doesn't have anything at the base to help hold the screen. Have to connect to the pot holders which was tedious using paper clips. However, maybe someone has a more elegant solution than what I was able to find. Have you looked at the Ocelot Windscreens? I have one for my PR Deluxe, it's great. bradmacmt has also created a windscreen using a Snowpeak bowl link |
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Post by ErnieW on Aug 13, 2023 7:51:56 GMT -8
I have a Pocket Rocket. The longest trip I have done for the last couple of years is three nights. I have a set of canister legs to increase stability but don't really use it. I do not use a windscreen. I have been just trying to find a good protected spot and then for the two minutes or so the stove is running if needed I crouch near the stove and shield with my cupped hands about 10 inches away. I watch and listen to the flame to get the best position. It's only a couple of minutes. No problem with a full small canister doing 4+ morning coffees and 3 evening FD meals. I come home with fuel left.
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Post by oldbill on Aug 13, 2023 10:25:05 GMT -8
Thanks trinity. Thatt Ocelot Windscreen looks interesting at 1 oz. Need to look at how to pack. Normally have my fuel in the Toaks. Like ErnieW I've been trying to find a good spot, sometimes shielding it myself. Be good to have freedom to do other things though. Gets real windy in the Winds (hmm...is that a pun?) |
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Post by ErnieW on Aug 13, 2023 20:08:37 GMT -8
Normally have my fuel in the Toaks. Same here. I have a small square of paper towel that goes in with the canister. At first I did it because I didn't want rattling but then through experience found it useful because when the canister sweats the bottom rim gets mud on it sometimes. I discovered the paper towel also keeps my water pot clean when I store the canister in it. |
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Post by oldbill on Aug 14, 2023 3:22:25 GMT -8
I have a small square of paper towel that goes in with the canister. yep! That's exactly what I do. Sometimes the towel doesn't last the trip so I find some clean(er) cloth to use. Constant noise bugs me though I suppose it could be useful to warn bears of your presence. |
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Post by trinity on Aug 14, 2023 5:53:42 GMT -8
Need to look at how to pack. I consider this the only drawback to the system, though it is a minor one; my whole stove system no longer fits inside my Snowpeak Trek 700. The screen itself fits, coiled snug against the walls of the mug. The fuel canister rests inside the windscreen, and my PRD on top. The baseplate to the windscreen has to be packed separately. Not a big deal, but I do like the aesthetics of having everything contained in my mug. |
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Post by flatcatgear on Aug 14, 2023 6:17:04 GMT -8
The fuel canister rests inside the windscreen, and my PRD on top. The baseplate to the windscreen has to be packed separately. I thought that I would chime in here. Our philosophy is that you should use your mug to protect the most sensitive gear: in this case that would be the windscreen components. Gas canisters are robust and can be tossed just about anywhere. All of the Ocelot components (and most stoves) will fit inside a SP Trek 700. My 2 cents. |
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Post by zeke on Aug 14, 2023 6:45:22 GMT -8
flatcatgear If you don't mind, please feel free to drop by the trailhead Register and introduce yourself. there is a set of questions that you may be asked, but in general we like to get to know new posters, especially ones that might offer sage advice.
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Post by trinity on Aug 14, 2023 7:09:30 GMT -8
I thought that I would chime in here. Our philosophy is that you should use your mug to protect the most sensitive gear: in this case that would be the windscreen components. Gas canisters are robust and can be tossed just about anywhere. All of the Ocelot components (and most stoves) will fit inside a SP Trek 700. My 2 cents. Thanks, that makes good sense. Though I must say the baseplate feels pretty sturdy, and I generally carry it loose in the toplid of my pack. But I don't doubt you know what you're talking about.... |
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Post by Bill in Roswell GA on Oct 2, 2023 18:34:36 GMT -8
Normally have my fuel in the Toaks. Same here. I have a small square of paper towel that goes in with the canister. |
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