RumiDude
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Post by RumiDude on Apr 23, 2023 8:28:55 GMT -8
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ErnieW
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Post by ErnieW on Apr 23, 2023 10:20:30 GMT -8
Did I miss it or did he leave out this is for single wall tents only? I've only used double wall tents and haven't, under a lot of conditions, had much problem with condensation. I always vent the tents as much as weather allows. I don't expect the tent to keep me warm which is maybe a reason for some to not open up as much as possible. My tent is for keeping me dry and the bugs off me. Also it seemed like he was assuming constant atmospheric pressure? I know that can influence dew point. I guess you have to take the webinar to get what this science means in practical application?
I am relatively new to hammocking. Is there ever any issues with condensation with a hammock system? For me so far no. (is this too much of a thread drift?)
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Post by zeke on Apr 23, 2023 12:08:51 GMT -8
Is there ever any issues with condensation with a hammock system? I leave a decent gap between my tarp and the WBBB for any condensation to occur. Been doing this for over a decade now. |
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Post by thedude on Apr 24, 2023 11:47:40 GMT -8
I agree with ErnieW, venting seems to do the trick. That can be a challenge if you are faced with lots of rain, but venting has worked well for me. |
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Post by trinity on Apr 24, 2023 16:27:28 GMT -8
I am relatively new to hammocking. Is there ever any issues with condensation with a hammock system? For me so far no. (is this too much of a thread drift?) That's a good question. When hammocking, I use a hex-tarp about 95% of the time. There is so much air movement through the tarp that condensation is never an issue. It could probably become a minor issue in a winter tarp with the doors closed, but as zeke suggests, there is plenty of space between the tarp and the hammock, and since any condensation can simply run down the sides of the tarp to the ground, the effect is basically the same as a double-wall tent. |
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Post by ErnieW on Apr 24, 2023 16:39:53 GMT -8
I have heard stories about tents being like condensation machines under some circumstances. So bad there are puddles in the tent floor by morning and if you or the wind jostle the tent you get rained on. I don't think a hammock system could do that but maybe every once and while you wake up a little morning dew-y? To date I haven't had moisture form on the bottom of the tarp.
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Post by driftwoody on Apr 24, 2023 17:13:13 GMT -8
I always hammock when practical, so I haven't used my Durston X-Mid 1 Solid yet. I chose the Solid for max strength & storm protection. The solid fabric on the side walls go much higher, which could lead to more condensation.
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Post by ErnieW on Apr 24, 2023 17:31:08 GMT -8
I didn't get a definitive answer but from what I have been reading online since a hammock is above the warmth and moisture of the ground and the tarp shields you from radiative loss to a clear sky, you shouldn't get dew covered. No tarp that might be different.
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Post by RumiDude on Apr 25, 2023 20:58:01 GMT -8
from what I have been reading online since a hammock is above the warmth and moisture of the ground and the tarp shields you from radiative loss to a clear sky, you shouldn't get dew covered. Depends ... #1 If in a hammock, you are likely in tree cover which is itself helpful in mitigating radiative loss. #2 Also the height above the hammock the tarp is will determine sometimes the possibilities of condensation. #3 Magic or witchcraft sometimes happens. I have only hammocked less than 20 nights in the last 40 - 50 years. A few times I didn't have a real tarp at all, just an emergency plan for the possibility of rain. Got some dew on me then. But once about 20 years ago in the Washington Cascades I set up my hammock w/tarp and then did all the evening chores. When I got ready to sleep, my tarp and parts of my hammock had condensation on it already. Never figured it out, just know that it happened. Rumi |
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Post by leadbelly on May 4, 2023 6:56:11 GMT -8
never had a condensation issue with a hammock under a tarp. I have gotten pretty damp when wind-driven rain intrudes. I get part of the blame for not properly setting up or having a right-sized tarp sometimes.
i only use double-wall tents. no matter how you vent them, there are some warm/humid nights with little air movement where they can feel uncomfortably warm, even sleeping on top of the bag rather than inside it. winter, there are stormy situations where the tent is zipped up tight and moisture accumulates on the inner surface, freezes into rime, and falls off onto the sleeping bag, floor etc. It's a big reason I use a bag with a waterproof/breathable membrane in the winter.
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Post by dayhiker on May 4, 2023 8:45:18 GMT -8
I think I had condensation in my hammock when it was snowing, on my sleeping bag, that would be my Hennessy which had lower side walls than WBBB, but its tarp is close to hammock.
Sometimes everything gets covered in dew?
Wipe tent down, not a real problem.
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Post by ErnieW on May 4, 2023 9:22:00 GMT -8
For winter I still open up the inner tent before bed. Maybe just the doors half open at the top. The fly might be buttoned up. I figure if your sleeping bag is doing its job then you are giving off so little heat overnight that closing up the inner tent does nothing for warmth. It just keeps the moisture from your breath and body trapped.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on May 4, 2023 11:05:19 GMT -8
For me condensation always seems to be linked to site selection in large measure. I’ve been forced into grass a time or two and that’s the worst as the transpiration of all those plants just overwhelms any ventilation I can do. Staying out of damp low places is another help, as is a bit of wind.
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