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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 19:48:54 GMT -8
im just wondering what everyones pack for a 1-3 night trek would be? im looking at a 22L and 26L size pack. however i would love to go smaller to the 22 if possible. obviously i dont plan on buying a new pack until i decide on what i should really bring. now keep in mind this isnt me walking the app trail or a 1/2/3 month hike. this is just for a weekend, so im curious what everyone would recommend on terms of size. and weight limits for UL.
thanks a lot!
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Feb 24, 2016 19:55:16 GMT -8
My gear selection doesn't really change from a weekend to a two week route except for food and a bit more fuel for my stove.
Without knowing where or when YOU'RE going out that question isn't answerable. My pack size is what will hold all the gear I take plus food.
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Post by snappypepper on Feb 24, 2016 20:06:59 GMT -8
I'd find it difficult to carry a sleeping bag and tent or shelter plus food/water/etc in less than a 40L pack, but I am not an ultralight hiker. I guess if you are cowboy camping in hot weather, your plan might work, but I've never been in a situation where I didn't at least need a sleeping pad and liner, usually I need a sleeping bag and I prefer a tent of some sort as well.
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Post by markskor on Feb 24, 2016 20:28:57 GMT -8
Pack size for 3 nights out is the same as the pack size for a week's trip, except for food...same gear.
Are you hauling a sleeping bag, tent, sleeping pad, kitchen stuff, and extra clothes? Are you tagging along/sharing someone else's stuff? Need a bear can? Not knowing the state of your gear, what is shared, and where you are going... still figure a good 10 pounds without counting consumables...maybe 15 - 20 pounds total, all up?
Perhaps if you go ultralight and let others carry the tent/kitchen, maybe then a 22 liter pack would then work...without food.
Suggest something slightly larger - 40 lit minimum, and if you have just one pack... even a bit larger. As said before, take all your kit down to REI and see how chit fits best.
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Post by hikinggods on Feb 24, 2016 21:39:46 GMT -8
What do you have for a shelter, pad and sleeping bag? These are generally the largest items carried, and, to a large extent, will dictate the minimum size of pack you can use. 22L is REALLY small. 26L might be a little more doable if you have a tiny down sleeping bag, and UL pad and shelter.
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Post by tigger on Feb 24, 2016 21:54:18 GMT -8
I was looking at smaller packs for quite a while but what I've found is some larger ones that weigh less or will allow me to pack lighter gear. My Golite Gust was 1lb, dang light by pack scale but was quite roomy 70L. If I don't have to compress everything into my pack, it will actually allow me to shave weight - compression bags weight more. That said, I use a zipperless, hoodless sleeping bag, wear my clothing as part of my sleep system, and use Thermarest NeoAir which packs down very small. Shelter depends on the season. My bivy takes up a hair bit less space but my HH Ultralight Asym weighs less.
Instead of looking at how small you can go, you might consider what weighs the least because that's what we're really shooting for. I'm no longer concerned with shrinking the size of my pack as to filling it wisely. I will eventually get a new McHale pack but not until I can convince myself that I have the lightest but still usable gear I can be satisfied with...for at least a week.
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Post by Lonewolf on Feb 25, 2016 3:59:00 GMT -8
I carry a 45L daypack when just out for a day. Not that I need all the capacity but half that would barely carry what I feel I need/want if I unexpectedly get caught out overnight, much less actually prepped for a few days.
As the others have said, nothing changes in my pack for 3 days VS 3 weeks except food and fuel.
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Post by trinity on Feb 25, 2016 7:15:04 GMT -8
You haven't told us anything about yourself or the conditions you are expecting, so I am going to make a very condescending post, for which I apologize in advance. If you have to pose this question, then you probably have no business even considering going on overnight trips with a 22 liter pack. For most conditions only an elite class ultralighter with years of experience and high end gear could safely go on a multiple night trip with such a low capacity pack. If I were inclined to do so, I would probably take a small (8.5x8.5) tarp, Neoair X-lite, Jacks R Better Shenandoah (good to around 45 degrees), Snowpeak Gigapower with one canister of fuel, Steripen, Snowpeak Trek 700 mug, and a lightweight puffy for warmth in camp. This would assume that water is constantly available, no rain is forecast, a night time low of 40, no bear canisters required. I could do it, but it doesn't sound like much fun.
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Post by rebeccad on Feb 26, 2016 21:58:07 GMT -8
I agree with Trinity. I can comfortably pack my gear for a long day-hike into a 22L pack, though if I need to carry much water it gets a bit tight. Food for 3 days would put it over the top, and that's without any sleeping gear. Long ago, I could sleep on the ground with no pad, so maybe...naw.
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Post by rebeccad on Feb 26, 2016 21:59:52 GMT -8
And this may sound counter-intuitive, but I'm apt to bring more "extras" on a short overnight hike than when I'm out for a week. With less food weight, I can afford to bring the watercolor kit, or a beer, or...
For what it's worth to the OP, my pack, for trips from 1 night to ?? is 60L.
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Feb 26, 2016 22:13:07 GMT -8
A 37 L Mountain Laurel Designs Burn would necessitate a tarp, small stove, down quilt, etc..with food which varies. Big thing is consumables at ~ 2lbs per day and how much it will take up in your pack. Most sub 30 L packs tend to be for trailrunners/fastpackers who will skimp on insulation (if cold, just go to bed or wear a down jacket with an elephants foot bag). It's possible but there are some sacrifices.
That said, season counts too. The last Complete Walker described a mild Rockies overnight using a slightly larger MountainSmith "fanny pack". The same packing list wasn't as good the next month when the snows arrived.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Feb 26, 2016 22:14:12 GMT -8
I agree on the weekender added goodies. I'd never take Chinese takeout on a two week route. But for a weekend that or fresh food of some sort? Heck it will still weigh a lot less than twelve days of freeze dried dinners.
Or the addition of my full sized tripod for a few days when the food is light.
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Post by zeke on Feb 27, 2016 1:08:23 GMT -8
I have used my 28L day pack for as many as 2 nights out, but I use a hammock, tarp, neo-air, and a quilt. My 65L Circuit is more comfortable and almost as light as the day pack. Given the choice, I'd probably stick with the Circuit for 2-3 days.
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Feb 28, 2016 22:13:53 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 7:01:43 GMT -8
The video of the fellow hiking the AT with a 20L backpack is nice. The hiker does admit he has left off some 10E's. And the hiker did not have 3(4) days worth of food in that pack.
At the start of the 2015 PCT season a fellow left from the Campo marker, headed north, with two plastic shopping bags and a small pack with a water bladder. He made it to Morena where he went from tent to tent asking if they had spare room in their tent for him. The next evening no one would let him share a tent. That was the last I heard of him on the PCT.
BTW: beach bum and buffalo 's 2016 PCT hike has started.
An experienced backpacker can make those decisions of what to leave and what to take on a backpacking trip. I am not going to endorse to a Backacker that leaving your 10E's at home to save weight is the way to go.
My wife did a 3 day self sufficent solo trip with a 46L bag; she carried 4 days worth of food as part of her 10E's. Anyways, that is as small of a pack that my indirect experience goes. My wife did not take a cookset on that 60 mile trip.
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