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Post by jj on Feb 25, 2016 15:21:44 GMT -8
I hiked from Hurricane Ridge to the Doseywallips Ranger Station in about 1973, great hike. Wow. We went to Hurricane Ridge for the 1st time Saturday. It was absolutely amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 15:26:22 GMT -8
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Feb 25, 2016 17:11:24 GMT -8
One set for hiking and one heavier set for sleeping and hiking in inclement weather. Just take a break by a creek and wash the funk out without soaping the area up if deep in pristine wilderness (or just get away from the bank).
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Post by rebeccad on Feb 25, 2016 21:27:24 GMT -8
Sounds like people have given you the pretty good set of instructions. For a week, I carry 2-3 pr. undies and 3 pairs of hiking socks, plus one light pair of socks that I use only inside my sleeping bag. I rinse my underthings and socks daily (we carry a UL bucket, so we can rinse away from water sources), and bathe my body every afternoon in camp, if there is any body of water I can jump into at all. I rinse my hiking shirt (ExO type button-up shirt) at least once in a week, and usually don't bother washing my pants or sleep clothes (I carry only one set of hiking pants/shirt and one set of long undies for sleeping. I have yet to need a thermal shirt while hiking in summer; I'm much more likely to just pull on my rain jacket for a bit of wind protection if it's chilly).
The thing I struggle with is my hiking bra: I don't want to carry two, and I never rinse it unless I'm positive it will get fully dry. I can put on a damp shirt, even wet undies if I have to, but I hate a wet bra with a passion that does not end (I also remove the disgusting and sweat-soaked thing when I bathe, unless I'm washing it, and don't put it back on until morning).
Even in the Olympics it doesn't rain all the time. It's been decades since my last trip there, but I seem to recall about 2 days out of the 5 were wet...though that was before I learned to rinse clothes, so I don't know about drying them. I will say that if things aren't drying, I won't rinse my last pair of sock until one of the others is dry, so that I know I'll have wearable socks in the morning. Smartwools are pretty comfortable even when damp, but it isn't ideal, and can be very cold.
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Post by daveg on Feb 25, 2016 21:29:55 GMT -8
When hiking in a wet/damp environment, I've not had much success washing and drying clothes. Once they get wet, they tend to stay damp or take a long time to dry. So I take a set of hiking clothes and a set of camp clothes (that can be layered with my hiking clothes for warmth/protection if necessary). The camp clothes are stowed in a dry bag in my pack and (except on rare occasions) are only worn in camp. Hiking clothes are worn during the day and aired out, and perhaps rinsed out, in camp. The next morning the camp clothes go back in the dry bag and I put on my hiking clothes even if they are damp. If the weather is nice, body heat will dry them quickly. If it's wet, my hiking clothes are likely to stay damp but moving will keep me warm and I have a dry set of clothes to change into when I make camp.
For a seven day (or even a much longer hike) I'd take:
Two base layer tops -- usually one synthetic for hiking and one merino wool for camp. (Long sleeve/short sleeve and weight varies with expected weather.)
One pair hiking pants or shorts -- for hiking.
One base layer bottom -- for camp/sleeping if necessary. (Weight varies with expected weather.)
Two pairs synthetic undies -- one for hiking, one for camp.
Three pairs socks -- two pair merino socks, one pair synthetic liner socks. When the liner socks are washed, they dry quickly. Sometimes I use them as a dry, breathable option for camp. Or, if my merino socks are damp (either from washing or hiking in wet conditions) , I've found that wearing liner socks makes wet merino socks feel more comfortable. I always make sure that I have one pair of dry socks for camp. If I've been hiking in wet conditions and my shoes are wet, I wear lightweight plastic grocery bags over my dry socks in camp to keep them from absorbing moisture from my shoes.
One or more insulating layers -- if expected temps are cool enough to warrant it.
Rain jacket and pants.
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Post by amaruq on Feb 26, 2016 4:56:13 GMT -8
Mike and I will probably be stopping at Goose Bay, Newfoundland on April 18th. It won't be for long but I will wave at you... Turn westward, reach as high as you can, and I might see you waving all the way in Ontario, where I will still be in April.
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Post by Coolkat on Feb 26, 2016 5:30:47 GMT -8
Sounds like people have given you the pretty good set of instructions. This part of the reason I enjoy this place. People may not give you the same answer (obviously) but everyone has a reason for why they do what they do and they tell you. You end up with good advice. Just have to sort it out a little.
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Post by cweston on Feb 26, 2016 5:37:39 GMT -8
I think is is the key--keep a close eye on the weather and decide if you will be able to get things dry or not.
This is one of the nice things about making early camp at least one day of a trip--it gives you plenty of time to dry items that you have rinsed/washed.
Also, damp socks worn to bed will dry out from your body heat by morning. Not soaking wet socks, of course...
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Post by rebeccad on Feb 26, 2016 8:04:54 GMT -8
When hiking in a wet/damp environment, I've not had much success washing and drying clothes. Once they get wet, they tend to stay damp or take a long time to dry. This is a good point, and conditions should determine if you rinse clothes. Even just airing things goes a long way toward making the clothes more pleasant to put on. Also, damp socks worn to bed will dry out from your body heat by morning. Not soaking wet socks, of course... I'd caution against this. I don't like to add a lot of dampness to the bag, and especially, would not wear damp socks to bed--my feet would freeze. YMMV, of course, but there's a reason I sacredly guard a pair of clean, dry socks that I use only in my bag!
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Post by tigger on Feb 26, 2016 8:32:27 GMT -8
Just put your stuff in your sleeping bag. You don't have to wear it for it to dry overnight. Your body heat will help push out the moisture. I just tuck mine in next to me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 9:06:50 GMT -8
The LNT Skinny on using soap.For me, when I want to clean clothes in the backcountry. I use warmed water. I warm the water away from the water source, I put the item to be cleaned into a gallon zip lock freezer bag, squish the item around a bit, and pour the water out on 'dead ground.' For me dead ground tends to be the trail or the ground inside a fire ring. I carry a wash cloth as a rag. I will, from time to time, use warmed water in a freezer bag and the wash cloth to wipe myself down. I will stand on either the trail or on the rocks of a fire ring to limit my impact to the dead ground. I am sure if I had children, I'd bring wipes and carry them back in my garbage. I only tend to do the rinse clothes and myself thing on layover days.
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Post by Crockett on Feb 26, 2016 10:23:09 GMT -8
The length of the trip really doesn't matter. Generally I'll take:
One pair of socks, underwear and a shirt for hiking, a full change for camp and a third change for sleeping. One pair of pants and (occasionally) one pair of shorts. If I need a change of pants while in camp my rain pants pull double duty. One fleece One shell Gloves, longjohns and touque as the season dictates.
Wash and rinse as needed. If it's too cold to swim, I like the occasional sponge bath. And, yes, laundry and washing should always be away from the water source. I used to know a guy who would bathe in the lakes thinking it was ok since he used biodegradeable soap. I had to explain to him the bacteria that makes it biodegradeable is only present in the soil, not the water.
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Post by daveb on Feb 26, 2016 12:20:40 GMT -8
I was the one that asked about the detergent and my reason for asking was for the sake of keeping the streams clean.
I just watched the movie Mile, mile and a Half. I saw them washing their clothes in the buckets and was wondering about the use detergents in and around the streams.
Thank you.
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jj
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Post by jj on Feb 27, 2016 22:20:16 GMT -8
Well y'all will get a good laugh, many years (20+) of hiking 5 days or less (typically 3-4 day trips as we run both our companies 4-10's). I've always taken a daily complete change, rain jacket/pants, plus cold gear for jammies (except only 2 pr of capri's or shorts & 1 hoodie), and baby wipes. Never even crossed my mind to take so much less. I am going to bravely try this change when we start back with overnight trips in May. Thank you for all your recommendations and sharing experiences.
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