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Post by downriver on Sept 13, 2022 12:13:36 GMT -8
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Sept 13, 2022 12:27:02 GMT -8
Other down insulated clothing manufacturers come to mind before Patagonia. I had just about every welded seam on an otherwise great Patagonia parka just fail recently, so I’m not big on them at the moment. I’ve a Feathered Friends vest I love for its build quality and warmth per weight. They’ve a number of sleeved choices as well. featheredfriends.com/collections/mens-down-jackets/products/eos-mens-down-jacket-update?variant=41416077213895What’s your intended use? For a lot of things I tend to pair vests with hard shells. I find the layers more flexible for various activity levels. Patagonia refers to that model as a “belay hoody”, so intended for fairly sedentary use.
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Post by swiftdream on Sept 13, 2022 14:11:29 GMT -8
Other down insulated clothing manufacturers come to mind before Patagonia. I had just about every welded seam on an otherwise great Patagonia parka just fail recently, so I’m not big on them at the moment. Did you contact them? I’ve had Patagonia items fail after a few years and they were open to replacing them or letting me pick another item for full credit. That said I don’t like welded seams either.
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Post by gabby on Sept 13, 2022 14:23:53 GMT -8
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Post by downriver on Sept 13, 2022 14:30:55 GMT -8
Haha...! sounds good, Gabby. I'll take two...! They make great products, but so pricey...
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Post by downriver on Sept 13, 2022 14:38:44 GMT -8
Other down insulated clothing manufacturers come to mind before Patagonia. I had just about every welded seam on an otherwise great Patagonia parka just fail recently, so I’m not big on them at the moment. I’ve a Feathered Friends vest I love for its build quality and warmth per weight. They’ve a number of sleeved choices as well. featheredfriends.com/collections/mens-down-jackets/products/eos-mens-down-jacket-update?variant=41416077213895What’s your intended use? For a lot of things I tend to pair vests with hard shells. I find the layers more flexible for various activity levels. Patagonia refers to that model as a “belay hoody”, so intended for fairly sedentary use. I love the FF EOS! Unfortunately, FF sizing is way too small for my chest; 47 is as large as they go. Not going to happen with my chest. Also, I tried to get FF to do a custom fit EOS with no luck. Years ago I l heard they would do these orders. Unfortunately, not anymore. I plan on using the jacket for wildlife/raptor viewing in the cold and dry desert. No high output activities. I get a really good discount at Patagonia, so I try to get their products when available. Nice to save a few dollars. Regards, DR
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Sept 13, 2022 14:49:23 GMT -8
Other down insulated clothing manufacturers come to mind before Patagonia. I had just about every welded seam on an otherwise great Patagonia parka just fail recently, so I’m not big on them at the moment. Did you contact them? I’ve had Patagonia items fail after a few years and they were open to replacing them or letting me pick another item for full credit. That said I don’t like welded seams either. They’d shut down repairs for a while and I haven’t checked back. Should add that to my list.
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Post by downriver on Sept 13, 2022 14:55:28 GMT -8
Did you contact them? I’ve had Patagonia items fail after a few years and they were open to replacing them or letting me pick another item for full credit. That said I don’t like welded seams either. They’d shut down repairs for a while and I haven’t checked back. Should add that to my list. Repairs have been up and running for at least 9 months. Maybe even longer. Some Patagonia stores even use local gear repair contractors. Regards, DR
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Post by swiftdream on Sept 13, 2022 15:13:56 GMT -8
Funny but I have to admit one of my exchanges was before we sent photos with email. I used to surffish/hike the Sea of Cortez and girlfriend would cook up a fresh fish lunch on the beach. The tides are around 20’ near the top of that narrow sea so trying to evade the explosive tides while dancing on the rocks with a fish on called for extra good grip.
There are a lot of stingrays that will hit you with their nasty, stinging barb. Chouinard as we know likes to fish and he must have come across the same issues. Patagonia once sold Marlwalker boots, about like combat boots with drainage and soft gray/green color. They were perfect and I rinsed them off with freshwater every time but they started falling apart, just disintegrating. I still have the micro fleece I asked for in their stead, a good trade. Most of the things from them are either still in service or have been donated with lots of life left.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Sept 13, 2022 15:24:49 GMT -8
They’d shut down repairs for a while and I haven’t checked back. Should add that to my list. Repairs have been up and running for at least 9 months. Maybe even longer. Some Patagonia stores even use local gear repair contractors. Regards, DR Yes, I’ve used the NY Cast Iron District store repair facility previously. Just hadn’t gotten back there. I’ve always appreciated Patagonia, and before then Chouinard’s, backing up of their products. My first might have been a favorite Crag Dubh climbing pack that finally completely blew out its seams; bombproof repair that's lasted ever since.
Hmm, I guess I’ll stop by in November. repairshappyhourtour.splashthat.comgotta love the interwebs.
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Post by reuben on Sept 16, 2022 12:04:05 GMT -8
They’d shut down repairs for a while and I haven’t checked back. Should add that to my list. They've repaired various items for me. Usually free as I recall, plus or minus shipping. I think that now they tend to send a kit and instructions since that's less environmentally harmful from a transportation point of view. I don't think the kits applies to all products, however, and certainly not all types of repairs. Only ones that they've been able to develop a kit for. If it's truly failed, they may well replace it if you provide some photos and ship it to them to be reused/recycled.
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Sept 16, 2022 15:09:26 GMT -8
They’d shut down repairs for a while and I haven’t checked back. Should add that to my list. They've repaired various items for me. Usually free as I recall, plus or minus shipping. I think that now they tend to send a kit and instructions since that's less environmentally harmful from a transportation point of view. I don't think the kits applies to all products, however, and certainly not all types of repairs. Only ones that they've been able to develop a kit for.. I just got a repair back .. unfortunately just after I left on an extended trip so will have to wait to see how it went. The repair website suggests a patch if possible to avoid mailing, but my rip was in an anchor part of a main pocket so I sent it in. A lot of clothing is well liked and would love to learn to patch it up although there comes the time to say goodbye too. Last I checked they still had a clothing recycling program for when it gets too threadbare.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Sept 16, 2022 15:37:38 GMT -8
The main failure in mine is at a entire seam by one of the vent zippers where there’s plenty of overlap so I’d hope even if welding isn’t possible they can just sew it as it’s in a place not subject to direct rain impact.
I got Patagonia to look it up as it’s older, it’s an Ice Nine parka, style 83350. Well if not them maybe Rainey Pass can help
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Post by leadbelly on Sept 22, 2022 10:25:24 GMT -8
I tried on the Fitz Roy. It felt like a fine, well-made, good quality down hoody. sounds like you need larger sizing, and the jacket is sold up to 3XL. the fitz roy felt like it would be reasonably warm but not warm enough for my winter hiking trips. keep in mind it's a down jacket that is stitched through, so the inner and outer shells are sewn together with down in between. it's a less expensive design and doesn't allow down to fully loft. Box-baffled down jackets are warmer overall. if you're not outside a lot in temps below 10 degrees, may not matter. if you see persistent sub-zero weather, you'll notice.
if you want warmer for a comparable price, and if it fits, recommend Valandre's Troll Jacket. huge loft, very well-baffled, sturdy (so far, anyway). I wear a 46 suit jacket and size XL in this, with some but not a lot of room for layering; it sizes to XXL. if you're looking for size 50+, perhaps not your jacket, but their customer service is excellent, i received very good feedback about sizing before ordering.
the troll replaced an eddie bauer/first ascent peak XV - also very warm, a box-baffled torso, heavier and more difficult to stuff into a pack. this runs to XXL, which sizes to 50-52, and is very reasonably priced for how warm and functional it is. counsel waiting until eddie bauer runs sales, which can cut the price up to 40%. Moosejaw also stocks this, often at a decent discount.
Another jacket I looked at was the Mountain Hardwear Nilas. A bit more expensive, a little heavier, very warm. nice, but I didn't love it.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Sept 22, 2022 12:55:03 GMT -8
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