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Post by grumpytoad on May 24, 2022 21:51:53 GMT -8
Hi, everyone. I'm not a backpacker yet, but after a year and a half of walking hilly wooded trails, I'm up to 15 miles a week. Running shoes are no longer protecting my feet well enough. The balls of my feet are beginning to hurt , so I think I'm ready to step up to boots. So how did you choose your first pair of good boots?
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zeke
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Post by zeke on May 25, 2022 4:20:24 GMT -8
When I wore boots, I wore Asolos. I have moved to trail runners because I no longer feel I need boots as long as I limit my scree and predominantly hike on established trails. Shoes and boots are very much an individual choice, because the best boot is the one that fits your foot. Fit, Fit, and then fit. I am currently wearing Oboz for my hiking.
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Post by gabby on May 25, 2022 5:16:35 GMT -8
Hi, everyone. I'm not a backpacker yet, but after a year and a half of walking hilly wooded trails, I'm up to 15 miles a week. Running shoes are no longer protecting my feet well enough. The balls of my feet are beginning to hurt , so I think I'm ready to step up to boots. So how did you choose your first pair of good boots? Wife and I average between 40 and 60 miles a week. (She’s more consistent than me: I truly believe she’d get her 7 miles if hell froze over. During the last freeze in Feb (which used to be a bit unusual for Central Texas, but now notsomuch), she and I navigated the streets with chains mounted - we’re old, and it was slippery! She insisted.) So, I have to say, after more than a few decades at this rate of daily peregrination (4 - 8 miles for me @ ‘slow’ - 2.5 mph - never anything less than 6 miles for the wife @ closer to 3.5 mph), I find that “balls of my feet beginning to hurt” is a clear sign of midsole failure: I would get a new pair of shoes; not necessarily a heavier shoe (or boot). FYI: I go through a LOT of shoes (and inserts)!
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Post by cweston on May 25, 2022 6:53:48 GMT -8
There are a lot of low hiking shoes that offer a little more sole cushion and roll protection than running shoes, but basically look like athletic shoes. That might be a good place to start. Many of them are available in Gore-Tex lined or unlined versions. Most folks here prefer nonGTX in most circumstances.
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Post by tigger on May 25, 2022 7:02:21 GMT -8
I am on the hunt for a new pair after my last good winter and summer boots have worn out. I previously has a pair of Asolo boots for summer and some Columbia Titaniums for winter.
Boots or shoes are one of the things that takes me the longest to purchase. I look at fit first. I need a slightly wider toe box. My arch is a bit flatter. I prefer a slightly stiffer boot as I off-trail/side hill all the time. I prefer all leather with few seams due to toughness and resistance to moisture as I fight through wet brush and cross streams regularly. Although many complain about the heat of waterproof membranes, I still use them but air out my feet frequently/change socks. I prefer a mid-height boot. For my winter boots, I prefer some insulation. The last time I went backpack boot shopping, it took me about three months before settling on my footwear. I started with the Backpacker Gear Guide, narrowed down about 15 pairs that fit my general criteria. I went to several different boot/shoe shops and tried them all on. Narrowed it down to five, and then eventually decided on those two pairs. I didn't regret either decision. One pair was significantly expensive (I think I paid $500 20 years ago). They lasted nearly 15 years with heavy use and were extremely comfortable. My winter boots were not as critical as my miles are much shorter snowshoeing and they are usually worn relatively loose while hiking vs. my summer season.
I am considering trying shoes again, but I find they don't have enough stiffness for most of the terrain I hike in.
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Post by swiftdream on May 25, 2022 7:35:28 GMT -8
“The balls of my feet are beginning to hurt”
I suggest 10 Seconds 3030 Pressure Relief Insoles w/ Metatarsal Support in any shoes/boots you use. They are inexpensive and give excellent support for the metatarsal arches in the ball of the foot. There are other orthotics that do similar. Those have worked well for my overused feet for decades now. Shoes are another matter and very personal so good luck with your hunt for the perfect fit and performance there. If you have a local outdoor outfitter with a knowledgeable shoe/boot fitter they can try on several different varieties. My shop has a rough, rocky ramp to help with the testing. With EVA midsoles you will need to get new shoes every 400 miles if you want the best stability and performance.
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Post by driftwoody on May 25, 2022 9:28:00 GMT -8
the best boot is the one that fits your foot. Fit, Fit, and then fit This, always. After that, the two main questions are: How much boot do you need? Waterproof or not? How much boot (from low cut trail runner to full leather ankle high) largely depends on the kind of terrain. Several years ago a study found that one pound on your feet equals five pounds on your back in terms of energy expenditure and fatigue, given that you lift your feet with every step. Sturdier boots with greater support & stability both underfoot and around ankle may be needed (depending on your physiology) for rugged rocky terrain and off trail scrambles. Most veteran hikers have more than one type of footwear, depending where they're hiking. For the most part I prefer "waterproof" boots because I mostly hike in colder weather and really don't like wet socks. I put "waterproof" in quotes because the waterproofing inevitably fails (though usually not for a few years on well designed & constructed boots). Then you're left with footwear that is still functional for hiking but no longer waterproof and less breathable than footwear without the "waterproof" membrane. If your feet tend to get hot & sweaty, you might want to go with more breathable footwear.
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Post by downriver on May 27, 2022 4:22:53 GMT -8
I really enjoy La Sportiva shoes. I wear Ultra Raptor II trail runners in the dry season, and Jackal GTX in the rainy season (I live in the Pacific Northwest). I really like the soles on both models. La Sportiva shoes and boots are well-made products from Italy. I encourage you to check them out. Backcountry and REI have them on sale now. I use to wear boots, but these days I much prefer trail runners.
Regards,
DR
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Post by ErnieW on May 31, 2022 6:12:18 GMT -8
I just bought a pair of Salomon X Ultra 3 Mid GTX Hiking boots and am pleased with them. I have very bad ankles and came from Asolo 535's because I like the support and my feet are very protected. The Salmon's have good protection against trail rocks and the ankle is molded in a way that gives me good ankle security. Biggest thing is that they are half the weight of my Asolos.
I am guessing that grumpytoad may come from Pete the Cat. So I am guessing young dad. So if your feet are hurting you probably just need something for the trail. If you are older, like many here, there could be other issues like some have pointed out. I'm older so unfortunately I don't remember how I selected my first good pair of boots. My newest boots I started with Googling "best hiking boots". Reading the reviews will help you clarify what you are looking for and possibly some models that fit that need.
Also where you are targeting to hike can make a difference in footwear selection.
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Post by driftwoody on May 31, 2022 6:47:24 GMT -8
I just bought a pair of Salomon X Ultra 3 Mid GTX Hiking boots and am pleased with them. Glad to hear they're working out for you. I thoroughly researched boots before deciding on the X Ultra 3 Mid, then waited months for REI's annual 20% off. I was so bummed when the Wide version was not wide enough for my feet. Some other boot makers (like Keen and Merrell) fit me fine in regular width.
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Post by leadbelly on May 31, 2022 7:07:43 GMT -8
rough rule of thumb is that running shoe midsoles break down between 300 and 500 miles. If you have been wearing the same running shoes for a year and a half, and have been doing that kind of mileage for a while, I agree with comments above that the cushion in your midsoles is worn out.
hiking shoes and boots offer somewhat different things than running shoes. When they're made for hiking, they tend to have a) a more aggressive sole pattern; b) stability features that you find in some kinds of running shoes, but not others, and sometimes (c) a shank or partial shank built into the sole/midsole to provide additional stability and protection from hard impacts with rocky points or edges.
Last 10 or so years, I have worn Merrell, Oboz, Salomon, and Treksta low hikers or trail runners, as well as La Sportiva, Five Ten and Treksta approach shoes. Salomon have proved to work best with my feet, but they were all pretty good.
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