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Post by nextridgeover on Jul 22, 2021 9:25:58 GMT -8
Am I reading it right, that you have two lights and two knives? Since you are carrying a phone, and headlamps are really pretty reliable (and assuming you aren’t planning night hiking anyway), I don’t see why two lights. You knife needs are probably based on fishing, but again, I don’t see why two. Otherwise, I don’t see much in there that I don’t carry, though your FAK is definitely bigger than mine. Your comment about your clothes weighing more is certainly valid. Oh, and I see a towel listed in two places. Again, you need two? (On reflection, I do carry a very light towel for kitchen use separate from the one I use when bathing, so maybe yes). One is a little key chain light that uses a watch battery. I usually have that in my tent that way if we do a night hike I can see the thing. Now that I'm older I don't do those anymore so can do away with it. On the knife, I have two listed by accident. Only one has weight listed. The other is when I'm not fishing which is never. You have over a pound of thermals on your list. But if hanging in the evening is your group's thing then this may be vital. There are no weights listed for your first aid kit but it sounds on the heavy side. I see 2 tubes wound seal. Do you know how and when to use it? Is this the first aid for the whole group or will they all have their own versions? I would think if any wound seal is needed just one tube would do? Yes I know how to use wound seal. At one point in my life was a certified rescue diver and medic first aid. This is for the entire group and weighs a little over 5oz. As I'm the one who understands treatment I am a little over zealous. I could cut that back a couple ounces. The thermals is a good call. I normally carry those in Fall conditions. As I've aged I get cold a little easier and thought bring em. I have some Patagonia lightweight base layers that would cut 1/3 of that weight. At least with the down jacket I could change the mid weight to lightweight top. Save a few ounces. Ok we are down 5-6 ounces. I really appreciate the feedback.
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Post by nextridgeover on Jul 22, 2021 9:41:02 GMT -8
I prefer to carry chemical tablets as backup. That way I’m covered from filter failures that don’t involve simple clogging. The things do simply break on occasion, though the gravity types are less prone to mechanicals than pumped types. I hadn't thought about that as a back up. Aquamira would be lighter and a bandana for any larger particulates.
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Post by ErnieW on Jul 22, 2021 12:02:00 GMT -8
The thermals is a good call. I normally carry those in Fall conditions. As I've aged I get cold a little easier and thought bring em. I have some Patagonia lightweight base layers that would cut 1/3 of that weight. At least with the down jacket I could change the mid weight to lightweight top. Save a few ounces. Hope you don't mind us being arm chair critics. Did I say I am jealous? Also my rain pants over my convertible pants with the legs on is one of the things I count on if I need boosted warmth.
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Post by nextridgeover on Jul 23, 2021 4:03:54 GMT -8
Hope you don't mind us being arm chair critics. Did I say I am jealous? Also my rain pants over my convertible pants with the legs on is one of the things I count on if I need boosted warmth. No not at all. I look at this a positive experience. I've never had anyone really critique my choices and the experience of those on this board is greater than mine when it comes to time on trails. The more yall keep whittling the better my knees will feel! I plan to create "my" finalized list and then present it to the group for a final Basecamp shakedown. Thank you all again
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Post by rebeccad on Jul 23, 2021 7:48:25 GMT -8
As to those thermal undies, a lot depends on conditions. I always carry light thermals into the Sierra, for sleeping in and warmth hanging about in the evening. No infrequently, midweight would be a better choice. So skipping those would raise red flag for me, but if overnight lows are going to be in the 50s or some such, I can see them being overkill.
I’ll second the chemicals as a back-up for the filter.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jul 23, 2021 13:14:12 GMT -8
The newer types of chemicals have a far improved taste that’s for sure. The downside if cryptosporidium is a concern is the wait time. But I expect that’s pretty regional specific. ?
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Post by trinity on Jul 26, 2021 17:03:20 GMT -8
I prefer to carry chemical tablets as backup. This is what I do as well. I think this list looks pretty good. Sure, you could spend a couple grand and buy lighter stuff. For example, a Duplex wouldn't weigh much more than the tent body you are carrying. I have occassionally carried Dr. Bronner's in the back country, but I don't know if I've ever used it. I don't carry it anymore. Is the tarp just to have a place to hang out in the event of inclement weather? If it were me, that 8.5x8.5 tarp would be my shelter for the trip. A random suggestion; on one trip, the 1 liter bag on my Befree filter failed. This issue has apparently been addressed, but I've still heard of it happening. So now, when I take trips, I usually take a 2 liter Hydrapak Seeker. You could switch this out for one of your smartwater bottles. They are lightweight, take up very little pack space, and can serve as a backup for your Befree water bag.
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Post by JRinGeorgia on Jul 28, 2021 13:07:46 GMT -8
Back to the original question, what about a StickPic?
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Post by nextridgeover on Jul 29, 2021 15:26:45 GMT -8
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Post by nextridgeover on Jul 29, 2021 15:34:24 GMT -8
I think this list looks pretty good. Sure, you could spend a couple grand and buy lighter stuff. For example, a Duplex wouldn't weigh much more than the tent body you are carrying. I have occassionally carried Dr. Bronner's in the back country, but I don't know if I've ever used it. I don't carry it anymore. Is the tarp just to have a place to hang out in the event of inclement weather? If it were me, that 8.5x8.5 tarp would be my shelter for the trip. A random suggestion; on one trip, the 1 liter bag on my Befree filter failed. This issue has apparently been addressed, but I've still heard of it happening. So now, when I take trips, I usually take a 2 liter Hydrapak Seeker. You could switch this out for one of your smartwater bottles. They are lightweight, take up very little pack space, and can serve as a backup for your Befree water bag. I am just not comfortable yet with a tarp. I think I'd "feel" more secure in a tent. The reality is otherwise but mentally, those thin walls provide safety while sleeping. I ordered a hydrapak. I like the backup aspect of it and gives me an extra liter for camp. That tip is on point! Thank you.
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Post by rebeccad on Jul 30, 2021 8:16:34 GMT -8
nextridgeover, I don’t know about feeling “secure”, but there are few environments where I care to sleep without bug netting . Happily, the Grand Canyon is one of them, so I can trade tent weight for water weight, and enjoy the stars. But anywhere with mosquitoes? Fuggeddaboutit.
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