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Post by rebeccad on Jul 19, 2021 5:19:33 GMT -8
Good catch, Zeke. Food even at 2#/day is “only” 26 lbs—which still leaves 25 lbs of gear. That’s not too out of line, but cutting that food back to 1.5 lbs/day would make a huge difference. As for the tripod thing, I’m feeling better about hauling my camera around—I can set it on a rock or a pack and take a photo, no tripod needed. Harder to do that with a phone. And I think the thing nextridgeover linked to would not be very functional in real-world circs. Though at 8 bucks, you could get it and test it out before the trip. No great loss except a waste of plastic when it fails. |
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Post by trinity on Jul 19, 2021 5:33:33 GMT -8
nextridgeover has indicated in another thread that their goals are scenery and fishing (=more gear), and not high mileage. Yes, that's more weight than I'd carry, but it's not my hike.
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Post by ErnieW on Jul 19, 2021 5:44:36 GMT -8
One more quick question: When is this trip for you? I ask because if you have the time you should do a run through with the video part. I usually only take pics because video is more of a battery hog. Also on such a long trip with taking that much video will you have enough storage space? Here is the Ultra-pod in one of its best modes. It can be attached like that to your hiking poles for either a selfie stick or if I plant my pole a monopod. The little ball assembly generally allows to get the camera's center of gravity balanced over the support (that's more in tripod mode). The Velcro strap comes with it and it attached:  |
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Post by davesenesac on Jul 19, 2021 10:08:10 GMT -8
Below very popular for $16 weighs 20 ounces with a 50 inch maximum height. Don't use it with my A6000 but rather always in my Forester for my GoPro Hero 8 or tiny Canon ELPH190:
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jul 19, 2021 10:41:57 GMT -8
This might fit your need: Slik made my 500G which I referred to above “ SLIK Creator's Clamp - Universal tool for content creators Slik’s new Creator’s Clamp, a multi-function tool, provides support for cameras, small lights and monitors, and phones in confined spaces where a tripod is impractical.” slikusa.com/blogs/news/slik-creators-clamp-unveiled |
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Post by nextridgeover on Jul 19, 2021 13:31:40 GMT -8
Sorry to go here, but it is a backpacking forum after all. 51#s?!? Even with some heavy camera gear, that is a huge load. I probably carried such a load in my 30s and 40s, but since then have tried to keep my packload under 40 #s. Do you know what your base weight is? Are you interested in reducing that weight? Reducing your consumables weight? I'm 54 years old and the fire in me burns as hot today as it did 20 years ago. I walked 3 miles yesterday with 50 lbs. My hips are sore but this is the first time I bumped up to 50. I've been training with 35. My base weight should be 24-25 lbs including fishing gear. Also, many of my clothes are XXL and weigh more than your small, medium and large. My pack, a Granite Gear Blaze 60 is a long. I'm 6'1 240 lbs. Yes I should drop a few but when I'm at 225 I'm actually fairly lean. I'm a big guy. Food should be no more than 2lbs per day for 3-3,500 calories per day. I'm not done making my meals so it may change but that's my max Likely I'll come in at 48lbs when done but no way above 51lbs. I'll post my gear list and weights and let yall take a look. Like trinity mentioned, our normal on trail days will be 5-8 miles with one 10 miler. This isn't a big mileage trip. We'll have 4 days of day hiking spread out over the hike. The ultrapod is really beginning to look like the tool of choice. I look forward to your suggestions as I've never had anyone critique my gear list. |
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Post by nextridgeover on Jul 21, 2021 12:45:46 GMT -8
Hopefully this is where I upload a spreadsheet and weight of my gear.  |
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Post by nextridgeover on Jul 21, 2021 12:50:49 GMT -8
Still things to add.
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Post by zeke on Jul 21, 2021 13:27:31 GMT -8
I'm going to do this as you presented them, so it may be easier to see.
Don't carry the stuff sack for the pillow, instead rolling it up with the sleeping pad. Only saves 5 grams, but this is where I'll start.
Is your partner carrying a filter? If so, no need for you to carry a spare. Whichever one doesn't clog up or otherwise fail is the back up plan. Share gear, and save that 35 grams of weight.
You list your fuel but say your tent mate will carry. 667 gr. Is this true, that your mate will carry this item?
Will you be able to count on eating fresh fish at least 2 nights? That would allow you to cut back on some dinners.
Still, I think this base weight would be about 20 pounds, at best with your chosen tent, and sleep system. Adding in the food and 2 L of water will bring it up to, or very close to, 45 pounds. 13 days in the Winds, you should be able to eat fresh fish more than 2 nights, but realistically speaking, 45 #s is about as low as you'll get unsupported.
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Post by nextridgeover on Jul 21, 2021 13:40:55 GMT -8
My partner is carrying a be free as well. When I did 9 days in the Beartooths my filter began to clog and I thought for 3oz it would be worth the weight for 13 days in case we have any silted water. I'll save the 5 grams on the pillow stuff sack.
As far as fish goes. I'll eat fish 2 nights. A lot of this trip will have some elevation and I don't care to have fires up that high. Too hard on the environment. I plan to cook the fish in foil in a small fire. So twice I'll do that.
I meant to delete that as I'll carry the large fuel cannister. With the tarp, tent body and fuel I might be more than half the weight of shared gear. Although mine will get lighter.
I have no idea how you can say my base should be 20lbs. You see the list, there are things to add, not much fat to cut.
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Post by ErnieW on Jul 21, 2021 15:23:14 GMT -8
I have no idea how you can say my base should be 20lbs. You see the list, there are things to add, not much fat to cut. I have carried some pretty heavy packs in the past. I like gear and used to be in really good shape so I figured heavy doesn't matter because I could still hike farther and faster than a lot of my hiking buddies. Getting older the wear and tear of heavy packs is something to look at. But as long as this pack out is OK for you physically and you're not the slow one in the group because of it then no problem there I guess. There is stuff you could cut but not want to. Hike your own hike. There are hikers that skip a stove and just cold soak to save weight. Something I have never done. If you are unlikely to have rain and have such a great tent do you need the tarp and accessories? (I own a UL4 and love it) Also if you are fishing I am guessing relatively warm day temps so a lot of your clothes sound like they are for hanging out in the chill of the night (sorry if I am being ignorant of the Winds' weather). For me the camaraderie is in the day. I usually just want to eat and get into the tent/sleeping bag after a long day. You have over a pound of thermals on your list. But if hanging in the evening is your group's thing then this may be vital. There are no weights listed for your first aid kit but it sounds on the heavy side. I see 2 tubes wound seal. Do you know how and when to use it? Is this the first aid for the whole group or will they all have their own versions? I would think if any wound seal is needed just one tube would do? |
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Post by rebeccad on Jul 21, 2021 19:17:24 GMT -8
Am I reading it right, that you have two lights and two knives? Since you are carrying a phone, and headlamps are really pretty reliable (and assuming you aren’t planning night hiking anyway), I don’t see why two lights. You knife needs are probably based on fishing, but again, I don’t see why two.
Otherwise, I don’t see much in there that I don’t carry, though your FAK is definitely bigger than mine. Your comment about your clothes weighing more is certainly valid.
Oh, and I see a towel listed in two places. Again, you need two? (On reflection, I do carry a very light towel for kitchen use separate from the one I use when bathing, so maybe yes).
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Post by Coolkat on Jul 21, 2021 19:34:32 GMT -8
Is your partner carrying a filter? If so, no need for you to carry a spare. You're more trusting than I am. My one buddy and I carry our own items even if the other one also has one. I don't like the idea of having to depend on someone else. Besides what if my buddy's water system fails? One time I went on a hike (7 hour drive away) with a friend. Got to the first spot. Dumped my pack and setup camp. My friend was acting strange and just messing around. So I went over to ask him what was wrong. He had to sheepishly admit that he forgot to pack his tent. The only reason that hike was saved was because the night before I changed my tent to my 2 person tent because of all the predicted strong thunderstorms. We aren't polite to each other on trail either, we don't hold branches, if you're close enough that you get smacked in the face from a branch that I walked through that is your problem. |
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Post by zeke on Jul 22, 2021 3:45:45 GMT -8
You're more trusting than I am. I wasn't suggesting he not carry his own filter, only that he need not carry a back up filter for it. He lists a spare cartridge in his list. |
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jul 22, 2021 8:53:17 GMT -8
You're more trusting than I am. I wasn't suggesting he not carry his own filter, only that he need not carry a back up filter for it. He lists a spare cartridge in his list. I prefer to carry chemical tablets as backup. That way I’m covered from filter failures that don’t involve simple clogging. The things do simply break on occasion, though the gravity types are less prone to mechanicals than pumped types. |
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