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Post by zeke on Feb 11, 2016 15:04:29 GMT -8
MF worked for my needs.
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Post by reuben on Feb 11, 2016 15:12:36 GMT -8
HSF, yeah, I understand heavier/bulkier. I was hoping someone might have more first hand experience with some of the fabrics, or at least more knowledge of them (I'm not a fabric geek). Zeke, I have a Shoeller FF (Osprey 30F), and MF seems to be the similar WM fabric. What sort of environments did you use the MF in? As previously noted winters are generally dry here, although that's not always a given. And while my recent trip to Patagonia was atypically warm and dry, the next one might not be, as I plan on getting down near the end of the cone in Yendegaia, although it will be at least two years before that happens. I typically have a silnylon bathtub floor in my tents, which can help to some degree. I don't necessarily object to Pertex/Gore Windstopper, but if I can cut down on weight, bulk, and money spent, that's a good thing. I'm a bit worried that the GWS and Pertex versions are stuffy/clammy, but again, I'm not a fabric expert by any means.
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Post by zeke on Feb 11, 2016 15:32:41 GMT -8
I used the MF in alpine environs, mostly Tetons or Sierra. I sometimes slept out, cowboy style, but only on nights I was fairly certain no price was happening. In Sequoia, I used a tarp overhead to keep the snow and sleet off. Never encountered sideways rain while using it without a tent.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Feb 11, 2016 16:59:34 GMT -8
On a related topic as unlike FF WM doesn't sell directly what experience have you all had with the vendors you used?
Also a onetime Marmot equivalent, Gore Dryloft, which I got on my Couloir, has never been stuffy/clammy, just nicely effective at blocking unimpeded wind when sleeping out.
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Post by reuben on Feb 11, 2016 17:09:53 GMT -8
HSF, if you're asking me, I have a couple of Marmots and a Feathered Friends. I have no complaints about any of them, other than the occasional stuck zipper.
Backcountry has always worked well for me. EMS, which has a local store, carries WM or can order one. I've had no issues with EMS either online or in the store. They have a big sale going on now, but I'm sure that WM is excluded.
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Post by zeke on Feb 11, 2016 17:14:50 GMT -8
I used BackCountry for both of my WM purchases. Good experience both times. I understand they have a good customer service rep, but I never used them.
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Post by daveb on Feb 16, 2016 10:06:11 GMT -8
Quick question about the WM Badger size.
If a person is 6'4" tall, do they order the 6'6" bag or would the 7' be better? worse? Just wondering.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Feb 16, 2016 10:19:18 GMT -8
How much extra room do you need/want at your feet? Plus perhaps how frequently do you close your bag up on your usual trips?
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Post by daveb on Feb 16, 2016 12:18:58 GMT -8
It seems the older I get the colder I get but I've never slept in a mummy bag nor one made for backpacking. Being a big guy anyway, I'm always kind of starved for extra room.
I'm just not sure how these bag fit and from what it sounds like, the 7' bag maybe nice.
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Post by amaruq on Feb 16, 2016 12:26:53 GMT -8
How many items will you be holing up in the bag with?
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Post by daveb on Feb 16, 2016 12:29:27 GMT -8
Wasn't planning on holing up with anything. I'm not even sure what holing means.
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Post by zeke on Feb 16, 2016 12:42:59 GMT -8
I'd consider the 6'6" version too short for a guy 6'4". Just my opinion. If you are truly a big guy who likes his room, consider a quilt. Some really nice ones out there, and the down you sleep on top of does not help keep you warm. Just 1 example: 7' long, 60 " wide $400 -450, depending on 800 or 850 fill UGQ Renegade
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Post by scapegoat on Feb 17, 2016 4:48:15 GMT -8
Where's reuben... this could be OOC;) Wasn't planning on holing up with anything Water, fuel, batteries and the like
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Post by amaruq on Feb 17, 2016 5:39:15 GMT -8
Wasn't planning on holing up with anything Water, fuel, batteries and the like And day-wear to stave off putting on chilly clothing (including day-socks, which tend to freeze overnight). Some folk even go so far as to bring their boots into the bag too.
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Post by tigger on Feb 17, 2016 8:00:22 GMT -8
I put my insoles, and damp layers (base layer shirt, socks, etc) in my sleeping bag. In the arctic, I went so far as to put my felt liners which are quite large in with me.
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