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Post by turley on Feb 28, 2021 22:53:10 GMT -8
A new quilt manufacturer called El Coyote is worth a look.
I placed an order for an El Coyote 40F Regular/Short (Habanero Exterior / Charcoal Interior-Liner) on a Saturday evening and it was delivered on a Thursday.
With the extremely quick turn around time as this was a made to order purchase, I was impressed with the quality of construction, attention to detail, and overall design and feature set.
It is 56” for the upper two-thirds taping to a 41” footbox with a 15d shell and 10d inner/liner with both very soft of hand.
In comparison to my Nunatak Sastrugi and Valandre Mirage it is at least equal in overall build quality with the stitch lines tight and perfectly straight and not a loose thread or miss stitch found.
I was tentative about taking a chance on a new cottage company with few reviews (though those were all positive) but after the outstanding customer service experience and quality end product I couldn’t be happier and look forward to using this as a part of my late spring to early fall fair to warm weather sleep system.
The El Coyote website is now live and in my opinion one of the better ones. Easy to navigate and compare ratings, fill amount, ect…. as well as descriptive information about the quilts feature sets and philosophy/reasoning of their preference of untreated vs treated down.
I am not affiliated with El Coyote and purchased the quilt at regular price.
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Post by zeke on Mar 1, 2021 5:29:12 GMT -8
I looked at the website, and both UGQ and Enlighten Equipment are significantly cheaper. $60-80 cheaper. Both of those quilt makers also have a good reputation for quality, customer service, and timely delivery of the product. There seems to be many makers to choose from, and it is good to have choices.
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Post by jazzmom on Mar 1, 2021 7:02:28 GMT -8
I looked at the website, and both UGQ and Enlighten Equipment are significantly cheaper. Actually, it depends. I've been stewing about a 0 or 10 degree 900+ fill-count quilt for a while now and both UGQ and EE come in well above $400. El Coyote would be $399. Seems to depend on how customized. There's also something to be said for the turn-around time. An EE quilt I ordered for a Christmas present finally arrived last week. |
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Post by BTN on Mar 1, 2021 8:02:57 GMT -8
Yeah, it is important to compare apples to apples when comparing and not just quickly compare an 850 fill power quilt to a 900+, there is a big difference. Or if you do, then also look at the prices of the others 950 to compare.
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Post by tigger on Mar 1, 2021 10:04:07 GMT -8
it is important to compare apples to apples when comparing and not just quickly compare an 850 fill power quilt to a 900+, there is a big difference. Or if you do, then also look at the prices of the others 950 to compare. I have noticed very little difference in fill above 800, other than slight weight reduction. Can you explain what you mean by big difference? |
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Post by BTN on Mar 1, 2021 10:44:30 GMT -8
Of course the main difference in fill powers is both weight reduction and compressibility. The comment was regarding price. There is a big difference in the price of raw goods to builders and this is reflected in the price. I was simply saying that if comparing the price of one companies 900FP quilt to another's 850FP quilt, it is only fair to also then compare it to that companies 950FP quilt (if that company themselves does not offer 900FP). 900FP should be a bit cheaper than 950 and a bit more than 850.
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Post by gabby on Mar 1, 2021 10:57:14 GMT -8
Advertising - though I don't personally have a problem with it.
This exact same post was posted to multiple other backpacking websites. Both the "low post" posters are (apparently) associated with the brand/maker.
I guess this is obvious. Since virtually all moderators posted here, and they are more informed than am I.
As some have already said, "the more the merrier" when it comes to choices in gear.
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Post by BTN on Mar 1, 2021 11:43:44 GMT -8
I will be upfront and say that yes, I am the owner of El Coyote Quilts. I only found this forum this morning once a comment had been made about our quilts. I have not yet even had time to review this forums policies and I am not a paid advertiser, which is why I did not mention in my comment anything about our company or add any hyperlinks. I simply wanted give what I thought was helpful information to those looking for a new quilt. I can guarantee that the original poster is not affiliated with our company. We built him a custom quilt and he paid full price, I'm sure he would attest to that.
I would love to introduce myself to the participants of this forum in a way that is allowed by the forum rules. I will look into the policies of this forum and am looking forward to helpful discussions about quilts in the future.
Brian
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Post by rebeccad on Mar 1, 2021 13:26:46 GMT -8
BTN, You are welcome to post here, and to answer questions about your product, always making it clear that you are the owner when doing so. It’s a bit of a delicate balance, but we’ve had people who’ve walked it successfully, and it can be very helpful for both buyers and the cottage industries to have direct exchanges when people have questions.
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Post by trinity on Mar 1, 2021 13:32:54 GMT -8
Welcome, Brian. Please do introduce yourself over on the Trailhead Register. You will have a lot of expertise to share here, so we look forward to your posts. |
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Post by BTN on Mar 1, 2021 14:02:51 GMT -8
Welcome, Brian. Please do introduce yourself over on the Trailhead Register. You will have a lot of expertise to share here, so we look forward to your posts. Thanks trinity. I will write something up as soon as possible, glad to help where I can. |
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Post by turley on Mar 1, 2021 14:21:40 GMT -8
“This exact same post was posted to multiple other backpacking websites. Both the "low post" posters are (apparently) associated with the brand/maker.”
Good Afternoon,
I did post this on Rokslide and BPL but am in no way whatsoever affiliated with El Coyote Quilts but researched meticulously between many other brands before purchasing. Too be honest I was originally going to order another Nunatak Sastrugi but was impressed by the correspondence and customer service at El Coyote answering my endless questions and took a chance and am glad I did. Yes, I think that El Coyote are as good quality as any and have a great feature set for the weight but more than anything it gives all of us backpackers another quality choice.
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Post by BTN on Mar 1, 2021 15:17:24 GMT -8
You are welcome to post here, and to answer questions about your product, always making it clear that you are the owner when doing so. It’s a bit of a delicate balance, but we’ve had people who’ve walked it successfully, and it can be very helpful for both buyers and the cottage industries to have direct exchanges when people have questions. Thanks, that's good to know! I will contact you if I have any questions. |
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Post by tigger on Mar 1, 2021 16:50:26 GMT -8
I would be curious if you would be willing to take a couple of photos of 950+ fill and compare that to a shot of 850 fill. Is the difference in feather count that much lower, or is it even noticeable? inquiring minds want to know.
P.S. You are welcome to contact me as well. I am also one of the moderators.
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Post by BTN on Mar 1, 2021 17:58:34 GMT -8
Hi Tigger, to be clear, are you asking about the individual down cluster? If so, Attached is a picture of a down cluster from a lot of 900+ FP down (sorry I don't have a lesser FP to compare). The little "arms" on these clusters sort of reach out and "grab" each other to create the loft in your quilt or other down products. Higher fill powers will be larger clusters therefore will require less to create the same loft 'warmth'. Of course this is why the product will weigh less and also be more compressible. The largest clusters (highest fill powers) will always come from geese, not ducks and the higher you go in FP the higher the cost. We feel the 900+ is the perfect balance between cost and getting the best of the best which is why we use it. There is a noticeable difference in weight/compressibility of fill powers but of course how noticeable will depend on how wide the gap you are comparing. It all boils down to personal choice...how much the weight and bulk are worth to you. Brian El Coyote Quilts  |
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