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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 15:42:29 GMT -8
Hey guys, I'm trying to reduce my base weight. This is currently the gear I have as base weight for a 3 day hike through the Virginia Triple crown coming up in October. Any advice would be appreciated! lighterpack.com/r/usc1qeKind Regards, Invictus
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Post by bradmacmt on Sept 27, 2020 6:03:07 GMT -8
For starters I'd ditch:
Neo Air Pump Sac Sleeping Pad Sleeping Bag Liner Alpine EAT Insulation
That should get rid of around 10+ oz's. Use your butt pad, down jacket, whatever to cover your meal while waiting for rehydration.
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Post by JRinGeorgia on Sept 27, 2020 7:13:05 GMT -8
Ditch the sleep liner. If your quilt isn't rated to the temps you expect to face then you are better with a different quilt, a liner isn't going to make the difference. If your goal is to keep your quilt clean, my preference would be to go ahead and let it get dirty and wash it at home rather than carry the extra quarter pound.
You could find a lighter pillow solution, maybe a stuff sack with your down puffy inside.
The HMG pack is cuben so should be waterproof, no? So ditch the pack liner. Or, use a lighter oven turkey bag to waterproof only what you need to.
Ziploc instead of a ditty bag.
If you're eating dehydrated meals you don't need a 3 oz stove and a 6+ oz cook kit. And not only that, you aren't including the weight of your fuel canister (the fuel is in the consumables category but technically the canister itself is not). Get an alky stove and a super-light pot for water boil only. I use the Trail Designs Keg-F with a Starlyte stove.
You don't need two insulation wraps for keeping food warm/rehydrating.
6+ oz for a reservoir seems heavy, instead filter water into a repurposed water bottle with a squirt top that fits in your pack's side pocket or you can strap to the front of a shoulder strap (you definitely want it accessible).
I think you could get a new down hoody and shave several ounces.
Headlamp - I use a little flashlight that clips on the bill of my ball cap and weighs less than an ounce.
Your list seems to be missing some things. No extra socks? No gloves? If it's cold enough to bring a down hoody you probably want something on your hands. What about a map? Compass? Lighter or fire starter? Stakes and guyline? Knife or scissors? Your electronics category is missing at least one item -- what are you listening to on your headphones and what are you recharging with the power bank?
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Post by almostthere on Sept 27, 2020 7:39:21 GMT -8
The phone that goes with the power bank and ear buds isn't there... Are you eating with your fingers? No spoon either.
If it's cold enough for a mid layer and down hoody, where's the warm hat to sleep in? Three underwear and three socks (assuming those are pairs?) - I wear one and bring a second, of socks and underwear - that way if I have to wash one and dry on the pack I have a second to wear. Three of anything is superfluous.
If you brought gloves and eat out of the ziplocs, you can ditch the plastic cup and pot lifter that go with the cook set. Use a bandanna and glove as a potholder to get the pot off the stove.
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Post by daveg on Sept 28, 2020 16:45:50 GMT -8
In your revised gear list you list Exofficio Underwear twice. A mistake?
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Sept 29, 2020 20:05:30 GMT -8
Generally? Beware are of “what if”.
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Post by cweston on Sept 30, 2020 5:36:19 GMT -8
If it's cold enough for a mid layer and down hoody, where's the warm hat to sleep in? Three underwear and three socks (assuming those are pairs?) - I wear one and bring a second, of socks and underwear - that way if I have to wash one and dry on the pack I have a second to wear. Three of anything is superfluous. I generally agree about three of anything, but I do give myself the luxury of two pair of sturdy wool hiking socks, PLUS a lighter pair of wool socks that I wear in camp. That way, my hiking socks typically have a day and a half to dry/breathe before they are used again. I can put up with a lot of misery if I have dry socks, so I consider a couple ozs for a third pair worth it. But otherwise, yes: two pair of underwear, etc. I subscribe to the camp clothes and hiking clothes philosophy. I change underwear, socks, and shirt ASAP after making camp. Camp clothes stay reasonably clean because I don't sweat (much) in them. (Aside: this also solves the sleeping bag liner issue: because I sleep in my camp clothes, usually including long johns, my quilt stays clean.)
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Post by cweston on Sept 30, 2020 5:39:29 GMT -8
Another food trick: If you're solo and eating FBC or commercial dehydrated meals (I like Mary Jane's Farm).
A MJF meal pouch will *just* fit back in my cook pot after pouring the boiling water in. Perfect for keeping it warm while it rehydrates. (I find this more important at high elevation, because I generally have to double the rehydration times.)
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Post by texasbb on Sept 30, 2020 11:26:02 GMT -8
I agree with cweston, though I don't consider my sleeping socks a "third pair of socks." They're a completely different item--light, loose, fluffy, useless inside a boot.
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Post by jazzmom on Oct 4, 2020 19:22:32 GMT -8
So, this is just my opinion, but if you really want to reduce your BASE weight any appreciable amount, then you're probably going to have to look at your Big 4.
My rule of thumb is base weight = 2 x (big 4). If the base weight is more than double, then it usually means I'm taking too much clothes, "miscellaneous" stuff, etc.
If, on the other hand, you're just trying to minimize your total pack weight for a 3 day hike (is that 2 nights?) and your big 4 is what it is, then I would consider if you really need all those clothes for 2 nights. Overall, a base weight of 15lb is doable if you're only adding consumables for 3 days.
Those of us with base weights into the 11-12 lb range are at something like pad 1lb, sleeping bag 2lb, solo shelter 1.5lb, pack 2lb.
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Post by 1skigal on Nov 25, 2020 5:11:04 GMT -8
Ditch the sleep liner. If your quilt isn't rated to the temps you expect to face then you are better with a different quilt, a liner isn't going to make the difference. If your goal is to keep your quilt clean, my preference would be to go ahead and let it get dirty and wash it at home rather than carry the extra quarter pound. You could find a lighter pillow solution, maybe a stuff sack with your down puffy inside. The HMG pack is cuben so should be waterproof, no? So ditch the pack liner. Or, use a lighter oven turkey bag to waterproof only what you need to. Ziploc instead of a ditty bag. If you're eating dehydrated meals you don't need a 3 oz stove and a 6+ oz cook kit. And not only that, you aren't including the weight of your fuel canister (the fuel is in the consumables category but technically the canister itself is not). Get an alky stove and a super-light pot for water boil only. I use the Trail Designs Keg-F with a Starlyte stove. You don't need two insulation wraps for keeping food warm/rehydrating. 6+ oz for a reservoir seems heavy, instead filter water into a repurposed water bottle with a squirt top that fits in your pack's side pocket or you can strap to the front of a shoulder strap (you definitely want it accessible). I think you could get a new down hoody and shave several ounces. Headlamp - I use a little flashlight that clips on the bill of my ball cap and weighs less than an ounce. Your list seems to be missing some things. No extra socks? No gloves? If it's cold enough to bring a down hoody you probably want something on your hands. What about a map? Compass? Lighter or fire starter? Stakes and guyline? Knife or scissors? Your electronics category is missing at least one item -- what are you listening to on your headphones and what are you recharging with the power bank? I'm with JRin on ziplocks and down hoody. You can surely find a down hoody of decent weight that is as warm and cozy as the heavy ones.
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Post by jazzmom on Nov 25, 2020 11:08:01 GMT -8
I'm with JRin on ziplocks and down hoody. You can surely find a down hoody of decent weight that is as warm and cozy as the heavy ones. I don't know if the OP updated the list after he originally posted it (back in September, the OP's only post in the forum) but he has the Arcteryx Cerium listed... 10.8oz for a men's size with hood, 850 fill-power down. Not sure you could do much better. What do you consider "decent weight" for a down hoody?
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