biffnix
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Post by biffnix on Jul 13, 2020 12:58:00 GMT -8
California shuts bars, indoor dining and most gyms, churchesI suppose it was just a matter of time. Everyone was traveling as if the virus had disappeared, but, of course, it hadn't. Please limit nonessential travel, and help stop the spread. Or, we'll just have to keep doing this until a vaccine is available. Sigh.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jul 13, 2020 14:46:15 GMT -8
People weren’t traveling to bars, restaurants etc. while ignoring social distancing and masking. That’s the community in community spread.
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Post by oldbill on Jul 14, 2020 2:58:31 GMT -8
Many experts point to the failure to follow simple guidelines rather than travel (as in visitors). Especially in the younger crowd. 50% of new cases in LA county are 18-40 residents and they are spreading it to others. Gathering in large groups at close distance, especially indoors and not wearing a mask are all factors. www.nbclosangeles.com/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-los-angeles-county-cases-covid-19-age/2392128/I am certainly not canceling my vacation plans due to the carelessness of others. But it is annoying. Vaccines will alleviate this, but it is not a panacea. People will still get infected, just like the flu. Forever. But at least some level of immunity will slow it and reduce fatalities. |
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Post by biffnix on Jul 14, 2020 6:28:50 GMT -8
Many experts point to the failure to follow simple guidelines rather than travel (as in visitors). I can only speak to Inyo and Mono, as that is where I live and work. As rural counties, both counties had many weeks of zero new cases after the lockdown, with a total of one death in each county. So, zero community transmission once the cases had been traced and quarantined. However, once phased reopening of local businesses began in late May, cases in Inyo and Mono increased roughly 40%, as visitors poured in. That came from contact with people outside of Inyo and Mono, sadly. Avoiding nonessential travel is still in place in California, although people seem to be ignoring that directive. Sigh. |
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Post by almostthere on Jul 14, 2020 7:25:38 GMT -8
Many experts point to the failure to follow simple guidelines rather than travel (as in visitors). I can only speak to Inyo and Mono, as that is where I live and work. As rural counties, both counties had many weeks of zero new cases after the lockdown, with a total of one death in each county. So, zero community transmission once the cases had been traced and quarantined. However, once phased reopening of local businesses began in late May, cases in Inyo and Mono increased roughly 40%, as visitors poured in. That came from contact with people outside of Inyo and Mono, sadly. Avoiding nonessential travel is still in place in California, although people seem to be ignoring that directive. Sigh. Residents of small mountain communities are tired of the tourists... upticks in numbers correspond with reopening. People are pouring into Yosemite from all over. It's hair-tearing frustrating to talk to someone who freely admits having known people who've had covid "but we're not sick so we just came anyway." |
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Post by biffnix on Jul 14, 2020 9:27:24 GMT -8
Residents of small mountain communities are tired of the tourists... upticks in numbers correspond with reopening. People are pouring into Yosemite from all over. It's hair-tearing frustrating to talk to someone who freely admits having known people who've had covid "but we're not sick so we just came anyway." I want to make it clear - no one in Inyo or Mono counties hates tourists. Not really. Sure, some will repeat slogans, some may resent affluent strangers, but by and large, we appreciate visitors who are enjoying the great outdoors. It is our franchise as citizens, and public lands belong to us all, and we should be good stewards and hosts. I'm speaking strictly from a public safety perspective. I work in K12 education in Mono county (Mono County Office of Education), and so our Superintendent is in daily contact with Dr. Tom Boo, the Public Health Officer, and our charter is to plan for how we open schools safely without putting our students, families, staff members, and communities at unacceptable risk. It is not a simple task, nor are there simple answers to complex questions. But, evaluating daily COVID19 data, listening to medical professionals, and working closely with our staff will help us in this unprecedented time. It's like nothing I've had to deal with before. We're going to do our very best to keep our communities proceeding safely. I wish there was a simple solution. There isn't one. It's going to take a multifaceted approach, doing several different things, collecting data, evaluating that data, and adjusting policy and procedure as we go. Cheers, all. |
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Post by hikerchick395 on Jul 14, 2020 13:27:07 GMT -8
Believe me...people are traveling to Inyo/Mono and frequenting bars. And Schat's...ha. Those are two places we continue to avoid...easy since we avoid them anyway. The fishing stores are a bit loose on their mask wearing, despite it being a requirement.
A few private campgrounds are not following the rules either.
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Post by biffnix on Jul 16, 2020 6:22:53 GMT -8
Here's a new article on the uptick in cases in Inyo and other rural counties, which specify exactly what we've been pointing out. Nonessential travel (both into and out of the rural counties) is traced directly to increased cases. Logical, since if they had zero increase during lockdown, then it wasn't spreading locally. Inyo and Mono both had zero cases for weeks. Then travel restrictions were relaxed, and there we go. Are we headed back into lockdown again? I hope not, but unless people take to heart that they should be limiting nonessential travel, we'll keep swinging wildly and having to keep nonessential businesses closed, and no one wants that.
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Post by oldbill on Jul 16, 2020 8:16:01 GMT -8
Residents of small mountain communities are tired of the tourists... upticks in numbers correspond with reopening. That's not what I've heard from folks in Pinedale, Jackson, Dubois and Lander Wy. Everyone was quite welcoming. Jackson tourism is almost back to normal if not above. There is a facemask mandate, which is smart. 20-30,000 visitors/d in Jackson since mid-June with minimal case increases being reported. It's certainly going to go up, the question is whether it's in a controlled manner. Wyoming now avg. 30-40 cases/day vs Florida at 12,000 and most of those 30-40 are *not* in Teton county. It's hair-tearing frustrating to talk to someone who freely admits having known people who've had covid "but we're not sick so we just came anyway." Certainly agree there!! Just as frustrating to see so many ignore 1-way aisles in stores here in CT. |
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Post by almostthere on Jul 16, 2020 13:45:50 GMT -8
Residents of small mountain communities are tired of the tourists... upticks in numbers correspond with reopening. That's not what I've heard from folks in Pinedale, Jackson, Dubois and Lander Wy.
California's numbers have gone from not good to worse, and of course, I am not from a small town in Wy. My relatives are all still stuck in one of those tiny towns on the way to some popular places, and the unmasked rude tourists have flowed in and through town unabated since before the first lockdown, giving people quite a bit of agita. A lot of folks who live here feel quite entitled to ignore "stay close to home" - which I understand, but it's unsustainable. Beds are being set up in our local convention center as hospitals are close to full of cases...
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Post by oldbill on Jul 16, 2020 14:39:18 GMT -8
That's a bad situation. Policing a mask order and large gatherings isn't easy. Think I heard they were closing beaches, which hopefully helps. Most stores here had guards at the entrance to enforce the mask mandate. CT/NY/NJ require 14 quarantine for arrivals from many hot states so that cut the traffic (measured by ticket sales).
At 30,000 out-of-state visitors/day in Jackson, I am hoping their mask mandate helps. So far, positivity remains steady though absolute numbers rise with more testing. Bad news is they still are allowing 50 people in an enclosed space. Masks and distancing are what we need to get this under control. Pity there are so many bozos.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jul 16, 2020 14:53:37 GMT -8
On a drive to an appointment I heard an interesting report. Japan has a COVID-19 fatality rate of 7 people per million residents. The United Stares fatality rate is 400 per million residents.
The difference isn’t the interesting part. It’s that it’s noted Japan achieved that without lock downs; simply fully and totally embracing masks.
So we are where we are all by ourselves, this disease is NOT inevitable. Masks work.
Sad beyond measure.
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Post by biffnix on Jul 16, 2020 18:03:18 GMT -8
I literally just got out of a Zoom meeting with the Mammoth Unified "Re-opening" school committee with representatives from teachers, parents, students, board members, county health officials, and administrators. Mono County reported 11 new cases TODAY. We had zero cases for WEEKS just before things started to open up at the end of May, and now we're looking at not allowing kids at all back on campus, when originally we had a pretty solid hybrid-attendance plan in place, with hopes to return to a normalized program by January. Mammoth Hospital is now reporting that the turnaround for COVID tests is up to 10 days, which really affects any plan for hybrid instruction. If one kid is sick, then those exposed have to leave school, get tested, then wait 10 days for the result, including the teacher. If they test positive, then no one from that classroom can return to campus until they test negative (another 10 days at the EARLIEST). It's a logistic nightmare.
Why are some folks so stupid about wearing a darned mask and helping us all get back to normal more quickly? Argh. Makes everyone's job so much harder to do. Sigh.
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Post by hikerchick395 on Jul 17, 2020 18:16:31 GMT -8
Was in Mammoth today. All I can say, someone is making money again up there. It is stupid busy. Long lines at Mammoth Brewing. People were all wearing masks at the Village though.
There is a CalTrans roadside sign near town that states face covering is mandatory.
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