This is good (I mean the post), even if it didn't originate with the poster.
This forum has become moribund of late. We need more input, and just about anything that has to do with gear will do. Even footprint origami.
ETA FYI: I'm still going out (almost) daily and using a stove after feeding the cats, birds and squirrels of the neighborhood. I'm needed out there to keep a local cat by the name of "Rocko" from chasing my squirrels and birds. And I can't start my day right w/o a little "outside time".
This weekend, I had the SVEA 123 out. Yesterday, the Brunton Vapor. Today, I used my old MSR Simmerlite - just to see if it was as difficult as I remembered. It wasn't, but I still prefer the "European style" stoves.
Anyway: nice tent. I think that the wife would never allow me to buy YAT, and I still like my now "ancient" old 52 oz (twice the weight) Scarp 1.
Thinking: 52 oz <===> 28.6, ~$230? <===> $649 -----> 52 oz - 28.6 oz = 23.4 oz diff, $648 - $230 = $419 price diff, so $419/23.4oz = $17.91/oz difference for the wt reduction. and $649/28.6oz = $22.69/oz ------> Ya, totally worth it!!
I do have the "regular" Double Rainbow which is my favorite tent, and I do use it SOLO , I was surprised to see him say it was a great SOLO tent, since LIGHT weight types never seem happy if they can reduce weight down even more. So sure it is great for one, but most tents that is too heavy for some. And he did say it was cramped (my wording) for two.
Surprised he did not compare at all with other 2 person LI tents out there. for use by one or two.
Not sure but probably prefer BetaLIte for spring skiing, can pitch down Lower if needed.
Henry Shires has moved some of his production to Asia, no longer being a made in the USA company
Here's a post by Henry Shires, owner of TarpTent, on a backpackinglight / Notch Li thread regarding off-shore production:
For a myriad of reasons, most importantly quality and quantity, the Dyneema products will now be made where the Notch Li is made. The Seattle factory has lost so many people to Amazon that it was simply no longer viable to continue to make such a labor intensive product there. The Notch Li quality is absolutely superb and you will not find a better constructed tent product anywhere in the world.
In more detail, Amazon has proven to be a giant human resource vacuum and we, like so many other companies with operations in Seattle, have lost a lot of people over the last year and a half. It has greatly impacted our ability to produce enough product and, if you have been following our stock levels, we have been out stock on way too many models for way too long. We simply had no choice but to find a way forward. We will continue to make products in Seattle for as long as we can but the SKU’s will be limited because there simply aren’t enough people to make our whole line. Moreover, we have zero opportunity to innovate in these circumstances and when we can no longer innovate then the Tarptent contribution to the outdoor experience is over.
Now for the really good news. All the Dyneema products, as well as some other sil products, will be made at the new facility and I can unequivocally say that the build quality is amazing. The Notch Li fit and finish is stunning and I am very excited for what we will be able to do with new products going forward.
We all want "Made In The USA" on our gear, but the reality is there are a limited amount of workers with the technical skill in the USA who are willing to sew these kind of products at an hourly wage that allows a Co. like TarpTent to remain competitive. It's just a sad fact.
BTW, re solo comments. The DR Li , like the sil version, can take two wide and long mats (25x76") something that many 2 person LW tents can't do.
When Ryan Jordan (BPL) commented about solo use was first because its light enough for that and was also referring to winter use where extra space inside a tent is welcome. Not that the DR is sold as a 4 season tent anyway
I have an old silnylon DR (not the latest version) and use it when I want more room or expect to spent more time in it when the amount of daylight shrinks. It has plenty of room for one and lots of gear. I'd call it a 1.5 person tent. 2 people if they're small or friendly.
Judging by the video, it looks like the arch of the Li version is flatter at the top and/or steeper at the front and back than mine.
Not sure that I'd want the cross strut completely free of the main arch. Just a short 1 inch sleeve where they cross might be nice.
It's not an adventure until something goes wrong. - Yvon Chouinard
I've been using the original sil nylon DR for over 10 years as a solo backpacking tent. I love the extra room as I like to keep all my stuff inside. I took the plunge today and ordered the new DCF Double Rainbow.
I should have pointed out that the current DRs (sil and Li) are wider at the apex than before. 33% wider. For those that have the older version , take a good look at the shoulder room in the new design.