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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 4:16:17 GMT -8
Hi there,
I've just bought the Lowe Alpin Airzone Pro Nd 33-40 which has a concave curve in the back so that the backpack touches my body only on the shoulders and on the hips. That is supposed to make a better weight redistribution (other that back breathing) and since that I suffer from back pain that could be incredibily helpful.
Anyone that has tried these kind backbacks here? Do they really work?
I love the one I've bought for multiple reason (also semi frontal loader for easy access), but that curve makes the frame a little bit heavier. I'm going to thailand and australia for 6 weeks and being only 33-40L it's not going to be overpacked, but still the frame is like 52oz. Do you think the frame weight is worthy for the benefits I can have?
I have lordosis, which means that I have a convexity curve in my lower back. Basically it's impossible for me to keep my back straight and this causes lots of pain, as you may understand. I was thinking about starting to do some exercise to streighten my abs and my back muscles so that I can have more muscular streght to hold on the weight. Do you think that would actually make a difference?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 5:25:18 GMT -8
I feel strongly that weight training has helped me with being able to handle the rigours of backpacking. The one exercise I do to help with putting on the backpack is with using a weighted ball. I place the ball on the ground, with my feet spread a bit, next to my foot. I pick the ball up with both hands amd as I straighten up (stand) raise the ball over to the opposite shoulder. I do 3 sets of 10 reps with increasing weight for each set. Good luck.
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Post by tigger on Jan 11, 2016 7:46:55 GMT -8
Fit is most important. Whatever you have to do to make it fit solid on your iliac crest while just floating on your shoulders and getting your weight distribution as close to perfect would be the two critical points. Heaviest weight between your shoulder blades flush against your back. It took me several years of experience before it clicked and I got a system that worked for me. Of course, it has to be tweaked from trip to trip as I change specific gear. I find both to be equally as important.
When I switched to a custom fit pack, I realized how much more comfortable a pack could be when fit properly. I have not much hip to grab onto so the double buckle so I could adjust the cant just right and belt that fits my waist all the way around for a solid fit on my hips was a great help.
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Post by amaruq on Jan 11, 2016 10:05:32 GMT -8
I was thinking about starting to do some exercise to streighten my abs and my back muscles so that I can have more muscular streght to hold on the weight. Do you think that would actually make a difference? Yes. But perhaps not how you think. We use framed packs with hip belts so that, ideally, our torso (shoulders, spine, back muscles) carries none of the pack's weight. The weight travels down the frame, into the hip belt, and right onto our hips (then legs, feet, and finally ground). Why shoulder straps then? Mainly for leverage; if not for the should straps the pack would flop backwards and hit you in the backs of the legs because the pack's center of gravity (CoG) is not directly above the pack/hip-belt connection. Knowing this structure, consider now the concave arch touching your body at only the shoulder and hips. The shoulder point used for leverage -- check -- and the hips point for transferring the weight -- check. However, unlike pack-framing formed to the spine's curvature, the arch will tend to hold your pack's CoG further away from the pack/hip-belt connection (and further from your own, resulting in slight adjustments to balance), if only by half an inch. This will result in a wee bit more leverage pulling backward against your upper body. On the whole, you'll notice that the muscle group resisting the pulling back of those shoulder straps is your core muscles. With respect to your situation, I agree with Tigger. The pack that best fits your unique shape will be the most comfortable one you can use.
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Post by JRinGeorgia on Jan 11, 2016 14:46:46 GMT -8
I very much prefer packs with a curved frame and trampoline suspension, airflow across the back makes a world of difference for me. One criticism of such packs is that they moved the contents away from your body so have a greater effect on your center of gravity, so to compensate for that I also like the pack to have a shallow depth off the back while being relatively taller, rather than a fat, squat shape. Zpacks Arc Blast and Arc Haul are like this.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jan 11, 2016 14:57:42 GMT -8
For touring travel (as compared to the wilderness self-contained backcountry camping on the ground out in the open travel that this site is mostly about) I'd lean more towards a wheeled smaller duffle perhaps than a backpack, something carry on compliant would also make life simpler. And frames get damaged when on and off too many transport baggage compartments.... www.timbuk2.com/copilot-carry-on-luggage-roller/544.htmlJust keep the burden off your back entirely. maybe with a supplemental bike messenger bag for things you never want off your body? I like the top loading access messenger bags provide especially in cities where I NEVER want to have to put my important possessions down as I would to get at them in an actual backpack.
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Post by reuben on Jan 11, 2016 15:33:20 GMT -8
I don't have that, but I have a few other hereditary back issues. And age. Sure, core work will help. Your core basically connects the upper and lower halves of your body, so it's definitely important. So will stretching, foam rolling, hip/leg exercises... pretty much everything. If you embark on exercises for it, make sure that you keep the front and back in sync - don't let one side or the other dominate. They work against each other, but also together. One should be able to counterbalance the other. But as others said, eventually all of that load will be transferred through your legs and feet to the earth (hopefully mostly through your hips rather than your shoulders and back), so don't neglect them by any means.
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Post by texasbb on Jan 22, 2016 15:49:59 GMT -8
I hate packs that concentrate all the pressure like that. Packs are much more comfortable when they hug my back all over. The friction of the pack against my back lets the hipbelt be a tad looser without sliding down. They also hold the weight just a little closer, which is good for balance. The only advantage I see for the "concave" design is it lets a little air in. But I'm gonna sweat anyway so give me a back hugger.
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