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Post by gabby on Apr 5, 2020 10:48:47 GMT -8
Yowsa!!! The "pandemic" is even contaminating our vocabulary!!!
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Post by gabby on Apr 5, 2020 10:54:24 GMT -8
Start coughing without putting your hand over your mouth. It works great! It may be that I was the "target" of such sham while in the store. A woman (with a mask on, but not over her nose - what's up with that?) coughed violently as I passed in front of her. I just kept going: I was probably inhaling vast quantities of contaminated air anyway. I admit that I was wondering at one point why the air didn't smell somewhat "alcoholic" - more people have got to be drinking now. I know I am. Alcohol kills germs, as well as making you less aware of them - though it probably also makes you more susceptible to disease - not that you'd care. :^)
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Post by mk on Apr 5, 2020 13:55:06 GMT -8
Good candidate for an out of context posting. Yikes! A prime example of why commas are so important.
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Post by mk on Apr 5, 2020 13:56:36 GMT -8
Please don't eat me yet. I'm still alive. But you can have all of the reuben sandwiches you'd like. Sorry reuben. I will try to watch my punctuation more closely going forward!
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Post by BigLoad on Apr 5, 2020 15:31:09 GMT -8
The data are getting increasingly misleading as the test processing lag grows. Some of the doubling rates look like they're backing off, but I think the reality is clouded by the test lag going from 2-4 days to 6-9 days.
For example, NJ shows 37k positive tests. However, Quest reports a backlog of 160k tests. NJ rate of positive has been pretty consistent around 40%, which I think is a function of the criteria required to be tested (significantly symptomatic). That means the number of infected and significantly symptomatic is probably more than twice what is reported. That seems to align well with the current testing lag being greater the downward-biased doubling interval. The lag could be three times the actual current doubling interval, but I think it's closer to double.
This doesn't account for number of people who are infected and symptomatic, but not yet serious enough to be tested and those who are infected but asymptomatic. The only potential mitigating factor is that the assumed rate of positive tests might be off because they're testing more health care workers now who aren't symptomatic. Perhaps those will come back with more negatives. On the other hand, there could be more surprise positives.
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Post by reuben on Apr 5, 2020 15:44:29 GMT -8
With stringent test criteria and a test lag of 6-9 days, people could quite easily die before their results become available.
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Post by bcpete on Apr 5, 2020 18:07:05 GMT -8
I just found a couple of old 3M N95 face masks in my basement. I think I must have bought them about 15 years ago when I had to clean a large amount of bat poop from my attic (before installing more insulation). They will work just fine for grocery shopping, even if they are a little dirty.
Check your basement folks!
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Post by Westy on Apr 5, 2020 19:10:07 GMT -8
Check your basement folks! Same here. Discovered (3) three 3M N95 new ones, surplus from a sheet rock project 4 years ago. Hoarding them!
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Post by daveg on Apr 5, 2020 20:15:35 GMT -8
Sharing a FB post made by my niece, who is Asian. Don't like to hear that a member of my family (or anyone else) is feeling apprehensive because of racial stereotypes. I don't consider her point of view political, but the mods are free to edit or remove it if they disagree.
Her post:
The reason I am posting this yet AGAIN is because I am still seeing posts on FB with people calling the COVID-19 the "Chinese virus" Did it start in Wuhan China? Yes it did. However it is a WORLDWIDE pandemic. Let me remind you that if you keep calling it "Chinese Virus" than you are setting it up for Asians like myself to be targeted with racist hate crimes. It is happening right now as we speak in the US for example read about the incident in TX.
STOP DOING IT. STOP BEING A RACIST.
If you are on my FB and can't correct YOUR FB friends than I am taking you off mine period. I know some of you hide your "political posts" so whatever however I don't want that trash showing up on my thread. I'm already skittish and nervous when people give me weird looks when I wear a mask/gloves to a grocery store here in TN. It's not funny at all.
Again, let me remind you that the H1N1 started in the USA so we have no room blaming other countries for a coronavirus outbreak.
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Post by rebeccad on Apr 5, 2020 20:27:51 GMT -8
Sharing a FB post made by my niece, who is Asian. Don't like to hear that a member of my family (or anyone else) is feeling apprehensive because of racial stereotypes. I don't consider her point of view political, but the mods are free to edit or remove it if they disagree. I think this needs to be shared wherever people gather. Even if they call it "the Chinese virus" because they can't remember the name and only know we first heard about it there (but come on, people. I don't believe anyone could not know "corona virus" or COVID 19 by now), they need to be corrected and to just stop. Of course, the people who want to blame Asian American for it are just stupid. As though being Asian they just generate the virus out of nothing. Sadly, this kind of behavior merely confirms my sense that a lot of people are both stupid and insensitive.
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Post by davesenesac on Apr 5, 2020 21:06:50 GMT -8
The problem is Facebook and other social media is a hotbed of Internet trolls and are looking for people they can emotionally hurt with a larger audience. Since the virus terming became national news, it has likely drawn them. Note I don't have a FB account so generally know little about what where why goes on there.
Search with "Internet troll psychology" as to what drives such psychopaths. Most are Millennials males or middle aged men, that also flock to Comment sections on news sites making all those inane one liner political comments. And yes many are racists. Most of the middle aged trolls have poor writing skills and are poor debaters but do know how to flame and aggravate those they play their game with. Best advice is don't feed the trolls. When a troll is outed early, they often don't stick around.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 5:07:08 GMT -8
So we shouldn’t say German measles or Spanish flu either?
Political correctness run amuck, again.
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Post by ErnieW on Apr 6, 2020 5:48:44 GMT -8
So we shouldn’t say German measles or Spanish flu either? Political correctness run amuck, again. This is not TPA. Please be aware.
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Post by balzaccom on Apr 6, 2020 6:12:38 GMT -8
German Measles because German doctors were smart enough to figure it out. Go figure. In most of the world it is called rubella.
Spanish Flu because the rest of the world was still under various forms of censorship following WWI--so nobody mentioned it. And the Spanish were not part of the war or the censorship. So they were the first to cover it in the news. (BTW, in Spain they believed that it came to Spain from France, so it is called the French Flu…) Nobody really knows where it originated, but it certainly arrived in Spain AFTER it was recognized in many other countries, including the first possible documentation, which was a military base in...Kansas.
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Post by daveg on Apr 6, 2020 6:22:13 GMT -8
"Several cell towers in the U.K. have been set on fire and engineers harassed amid the spread of online conspiracy theories that link 5G technology with the coronavirus pandemic. There are floods of posts on Facebook claiming the coronavirus outbreak was caused by 5G, the fifth generation of mobile internet. Many of the claims center on the idea that the virus originated in Wuhan because the Chinese city had deployed 5G networks last year." full article
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