|
Post by hangingtrekker on Jan 9, 2016 12:23:47 GMT -8
I am curious if there are people here that have a lot of experience with Cast Iron and prefer it for cooking, obviously when it suits (IE - not too suitable for hiking with it due to weight, but great for base camping/car camping).
My main question right now is on maintenance after seasoning. I had someone tell me that once a skillet is seasoned and then gets "scratched", or the seasoning layer is run down to bare metal, that the whole piece has to have the seasoning removed and the whole process repeated. So, in an effort to minimize the chances of that happening, is it OK to "re-season" every once in a while by coating with oil and baking it in without the removal of what is there while the base seasoning is still OK?
If you have any experiences to share I would be curious. I don't have too much experience but know enough to ask so I don't screw things up. I've heard horror stories of warping and cracking so I want to try to keep my cookware in as good of shape as I can.
|
|
foxalo
Trail Wise!
Life is infinitely stranger than anything the mind could invent.---Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
Posts: 2,359
|
Post by foxalo on Jan 9, 2016 13:54:11 GMT -8
I don't have a ton of experience, but I do know that you never use soap when cleaning. You can soak with water briefly to loosen and burnt on food. I would use plastic scrapers to clean. Always dry immediately. You may have to use a little cooking oil to season initially and for maintenance. Store with soft towels to keep other pieces from scratching. I'm getting more into cooking with them, and there is so much you can cook in them. You can also use aluminum foil or inserts to line it for easier cleanup.
|
|
|
Post by hangingtrekker on Jan 10, 2016 8:39:11 GMT -8
My skillet was just seasoned. Ive cooked 2 rounds of pancakes on it so far, thats it. I was just curious on a "maintenance seasoning" as per my original post before it gets too worn down as opposed to scrubbing the whole skillet and re-seasoning from the start. It is a 15" Lodge. I would like to get a grill pan too. That would be nice for cooking/grilling steak and chicken in the winter.
On a side note, I cook the pancakes in Crisco. I notice, since the skillet is so big, even the biggest burner on the stove isn't big enough. The skillet heats in the center a lot more than the outsides. I think the Crisco has baked/seasoned itself on pretty well - a couple spots are sticky after using the skillet. I store it with a thin coat of oil and have noticed the stick in a couple places when re-oiling.
|
|
rebeccad
Trail Wise!
Writing like a maniac
Posts: 12,689
|
Post by rebeccad on Jan 10, 2016 10:12:11 GMT -8
I cook bacon in the cornbread pan occasionally for seasoning benefits. I'm surprised about this, since my experience with cooking bacon was that there was too much sugar in the bacon, so it go very sticky and messy, requiring me to scrub my skillet. Seasoning isn't a coating like teflon, and from what I've read (sorry, don't have the links), you aren't going to hurt it with a metal flipper. I also read that using some soap doesn't hurt, though I'm pretty leery of doing that. Thanks to that sort of thing my pan developed a rough carbonized coating which I have been working at getting off. I probably should just do a full scrape-down and re-seasoning, but I'm lazy.
|
|
|
Post by hangingtrekker on Jan 10, 2016 10:18:17 GMT -8
|
|
rebeccad
Trail Wise!
Writing like a maniac
Posts: 12,689
|
Post by rebeccad on Jan 10, 2016 12:00:26 GMT -8
I'm probably not in need of anything that drastic. I didn't read the comments, but I was entertained by the fact that the blogger found it necessary to note that comment moderation has been turned on because of bad behavior. People take their cast iron seriously!
|
|
|
Post by hikingtiger on Jan 12, 2016 11:32:42 GMT -8
Put the pan in the oven and run a self cleaning cycle. I'd be a little leery of doing that with an old pan. My oven self-cleans at something close to 900 degrees. That temp could crack an old skillet. Not saying it's wrong to do, just might have unexpected consequences.
|
|
|
Post by High Sierra Fan on Jan 12, 2016 11:51:04 GMT -8
I've a cast iron skillet I've used since the seventies: cooking is the "maintenance" seasoning, in my experience.
|
|
|
Post by flyinion on Jan 13, 2016 1:43:23 GMT -8
I don't have a ton of experience, but I do know that you never use soap when cleaning. You can soak with water briefly to loosen and burnt on food. I would use plastic scrapers to clean. Always dry immediately. You may have to use a little cooking oil to season initially and for maintenance. Store with soft towels to keep other pieces from scratching. I'm getting more into cooking with them, and there is so much you can cook in them. You can also use aluminum foil or inserts to line it for easier cleanup. The soap thing is actually incorrect. I used only hot water (which made it a pain) for quite a while until I found this www.seriouseats.com/2014/11/the-truth-about-cast-iron.html I've since started using soap and have had no issues. I regularly roast pork loin in my pan and sear then oven finish steaks and pork chops and it cleans up super quick every time with a little hot water and a soapy sponge (I use the blue kind that have the blue "non-stick safe" scrub pad on one side). I was always scared to use the thing for a long time out of fear that I'd burn something on and have to re-season it or something but now I love cooking with it.
|
|
|
Post by ecocentric on Jan 16, 2016 9:33:58 GMT -8
|
|
TJCeeJay
Trail Wise!
Take a hike!
Posts: 66
|
Post by TJCeeJay on Jan 18, 2016 23:01:37 GMT -8
Who uses cast iron these days? Sheesh! Ignore the pan on the top right of the pic, and the middle dutch oven! They are new recruits that I found lurking in the weeds under the porch of the old cookhouse here at Butedale. And the giant griddle I was "gifted" by the previous caretaker; who left it behind when he retired. Haven't used it yet. So while I don't use all of them, I do use many of them quite often. (Except for my Jetboil pot which is all I use for boiling water, all I cook on is cast iron.) And as has been said before; cooking is the maintenance. If ya ever do need to re-season a pan, flaxseed is indeed the best, but pure animal lard works quite well too. It's all I have here for seasoning, and nothing sticks to the pans I've seasoned with it. (Ignore those who say it will go rancid. It is polymerized / carbonized. It will not go rancid in a hundred years if you use lard to season.) For cleaning, I still don't use soap; even though I read the Serious Eats / Truth About Cast Iron" a couple years years ago. I also disagree with his "not as non-stick as Teflon" bit. He says he seasons new cast iron on the burner (and re-seasons), but that is NOT how it's done. It is done in the oven at a temperature of at least 450. For an hour or more. Several times. Minimum. Heat pan to a couple hundred, wet paper towel with oil, wipe-on, then wipe off as much as you can. Bake upside down at 450 - 500 for at least an hour. Let cool. Repeat all steps. And repeat again. And again. You are going to get smoked out of the house unless you have your windows open, and the range hood fan(s) on full blast. It's a PITA, but it's what you need to do for new cast iron. I actually have to do my seasoning in my big Webber BBQ, so I just use a sit-in oven thermometer to gauge the temp. To re-season; (unless you've really ruined the seasoning), you should only need to do it once or twice. Anyhoo, cast iron is king; and a daily cooking of bacon will keep it shiny. (We all eat bacon every day? Don't we?) (Aside from the Veggers) lol! Or cooking some nice fatty pork chops every once in a while will keep the cast iron happy and healthy for as long as you own it. (I make no claims for our arteries though!) Cheers!
|
|
jay
Trail Wise!
Posts: 152
|
Post by jay on Jan 20, 2016 8:27:36 GMT -8
I use cast Iron a lot and learned a number of techniques on maintenance and the like from my Grandma while growing up. As far as storage, coating it while warm with beeswax will keep it from rusting due to moisture. Beeswax is not harmful and doesn't and and kind of weird flavor when you cook with it.
|
|
Piper
Trail Wise!
Posts: 47
|
Post by Piper on Mar 27, 2016 8:25:33 GMT -8
I grew up watching my Grandma cook in nothing but cast iron and threw my own nonstick pans in the trash about three years ago to switch back over to the old cast iron that had been lurking in moving boxes (never unpacked) for years. Now we use it for almost everything we do on the stove, with the exceptions of things like boiling pasta and cooking vegetables (sauce pans). I also use a ceramic nonstick pan for eggs just because I cook them in like 1/16 teaspoon of butter. Here is my two cents worth:
Grandma always washed her cast iron in hot soapy water, ergo so do I. I use a teflon scraper on almost anything that is a little stuck (bacon does tend to leave a brown gunky sticky residue) never let it soak in water, rinse it and towel dry. Once in a while I forget to dry it, a little rusty residue forms, I rinse it off, roll my eyes at my own laziness, and put it on a burner to start dinner. Honestly, it cleans up better and faster than any other pots/pans/skillets I have ever used. Around here the way people clean cast iron is to throw them into the middle of a raging bonfire and let that burn off any accumulated gunk overnight - max temperature in that inferno I'm not sure of but I've seen it done many times. As far as utensils, I use a metal spatula almost exclusively. Did read on a website that adding cold water could cause it to crack.
My husband, a chemist with the nose and taste buds of a bloodhound, did comment at the beginning that spaghetti sauce had a little bit of an "irony" taste but when questioned he said it wasn't unpleasant and just keep using the cast iron. I think I seasoned them three years ago....maybe it makes a difference if you use it almost everyday but I don't have any problem. With that said, our cast iron is pretty old and the insides are as slick as glass. Chemist husband brought home a Pioneer Woman cast iron skillet he won at a conference last weekend the inside is "sandy rough".....not sure how that works just yet.
|
|
|
Post by flyinion on Mar 29, 2016 22:36:01 GMT -8
"New" cast iron is not sanded smooth like the old stuff. That's what your chemist husband ended up with I unfortunately am not lucky enough to own old cast iron either though. I have a 12 year old Lodge cast iron skillet that is also made in the modern method of not being smooth. I"m about to burn off all the old seasoning though and re-season with flax oil after reading about flax oil seasoning here and on another site. One site said they actually ran it through a commercial dishwasher, with degreaser, and it did nothing to the it vs. one seasoned with vegetable oil!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2016 3:45:16 GMT -8
Just my guess but the new cast iron trend (non-smooth) reminds me of the write up that came with the original Circulon pans. The original Circulon write up indicated that by having the uneven (non-smooth) pattern there were many points of contact with the food for heat transfer to the food. And there were many points of no contact with the food to increase the non-stick qualities of the pan (I do not have the orginal write up with me, going off memory). The points of non-contact of food to pan were places where food would, naturally, not stick to the pan. Thus, my thought that with roughened cast iron the rough creates many places of non food contact to increase the non-stick quality of the pan.
For me cast iron is an important part of nutrition. Since the advent of Al pans the incidence of low iron in the population has went up.
|
|