amac
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Post by amac on Jun 5, 2019 5:21:12 GMT -8
So I’ve hiked in bear country multiple times, but never camped overnight. My knowledge of what to do is limited to threads I’ve read and videos I’ve watched. I’ve camped in CO and the threats aren’t the same. I don’t want to derail on the probabilities of a late night snacker wandering into camp, but am curious to know how far to go with precautions? I’ll be hiking from Bowman Lake to Hole in the Wall to Kintla Lake the first week of August.
Do I simply bag my food and any fragrant items like toiletries, in odorless (odor reducing) sacks and hang it? Do I also hang my pack because said fragrant items were in it? Do I change out of my dinner prep clothes? My concern for hanging my pack is the potential for night time rain.
What other night time precautions do you take? Do you leave your water supply out? Bear spray in the tent? etc...
Thanks for the feedback and advice.
Adam
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Post by absarokanaut on Jun 5, 2019 5:39:20 GMT -8
Having about pooped my pants during a full charge from a boar grizzly about 7 years ago I do it all. It is not that difficult if you have a list it can become routine pretty quickly. The clothes, the pack, the spray, it boils down to common sense. I've got to run to work so I'll try and get back in depth.
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Post by zeke on Jun 5, 2019 8:28:32 GMT -8
I use a bear canister, so no hang required. Put all smellables inside the canister and place it a ways off from my tent. If in Griz country, I use the triangle method. Camp, kitchen where I cooked and ate, and my canister stash at the 3 points of the triangle. I hang the clothes I cooked and ate in, from a low branch in the kitchen area, allowing any critter to check them out, but I'm not in them. If I use a flavored drink, that goes into a separate drink container and is left in the canister or the kitchen area. Water bottles are the only thing brought into the tent. I make sure to check my pockets thoroughly, as candy wrappers are too easy to forget about and I end up bringing them into the tent. Not a good thing.
I usually end up digging my cat hole for morning use, the night before, and some place within sight of the canister storage. That way I can grab the TP on my way in the morning. After years of doing things this way, I'm kind of set in them.
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Post by cweston on Jun 5, 2019 10:19:30 GMT -8
zeke 's description is pretty much my method exactly in bear country. I'm guessing GNP probably requires bear canisters anyway. In black bear areas, I dispense with the canister (saves weight), but follow all the rest. Odor-proof plastic bags help in advertising your food a lot less, when not using a canister. Using a canister in griz country is a no-brainer, IMHO. The truth is, it's really hard to get a bear bag hang that will really stop a bear from getting your food if it wants to. All you're really doing is deterring it, which is generally enough, of course. But with griz, you really don't want them coming around your camp in the first place.
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Post by bumknees on Jun 5, 2019 13:55:17 GMT -8
We carry spray & use canisters to store our food. I'll add, we try and wedge the canister into something, so much noise will be created if disturbed. It has never been moved. You have more danger to food from rodents of all kinds, and we have only taken out our spray once, but never used it, in Denali.
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Post by Chuck the Mauler on Jun 5, 2019 18:10:53 GMT -8
Don't take canisters to Glacier. There are hanging poles and cables at all the food prep areas you'll be visiting. So take a food bag with a little extra room and some rope (paracord works great) and you'll be fine. Besides, who wants to carry an extra 2.5 lbs?
When you pick up your permit, they'll have you watch a video in the backcountry office (unless you've seen it before or are a regular in the park).
There are pit toilets at your campsites too. So no cathole.
I leave my water (assuming it's only water and nothing added to it) in the vestibule and bear spray with me in the tent. Food, wrappers, toothpaste, etc.. all go in the bag that you intend to hang at each campsite. That's a great trip you have planned. Enjoy!
Edit: I use a Ursack everywhere I go.....including Denali. The only place left on the planet where the Ursack isn't approved is in the Sierras. But for clarification, bear canisters and ursacks aren't required in Glacier.
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amac
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Post by amac on Jun 6, 2019 3:39:12 GMT -8
Don't take canisters to Glacier. There are hanging poles and cables at all the food prep areas you'll be visiting. So take a food bag with a little extra room and some rope (paracord works great) and you'll be fine. Besides, who wants to carry an extra 2.5 lbs? When you pick up your permit, they'll have you watch a video in the backcountry office (unless you've seen it before or are a regular in the park). There are pit toilets at your campsites too. So no cathole. I leave my water (assuming it's only water and nothing added to it) in the vestibule and bear spray with me in the tent. Food, wrappers, toothpaste, etc.. all go in the bag that you intend to hang at each campsite. That's a great trip you have planned. Enjoy! Edit: I use a Ursack everywhere I go.....including Denali. The only place left on the planet where the Ursack isn't approved is in the Sierras. But for clarification, bear canisters and ursacks aren't required in Glacier. I was aware that canisters are not required and was prepared to hang all my food and smellables. I have odor tight bags and am planning to hang from the bear poles. Glacier does a really good job setting up their campsites before use, as well as clearing the trail and rebuilding bridges. Trying to figure out if my pack and all it’s contents need to hang? If it’s just the clothes I cooked and ate in (the same clothes I would have been in all day), I may use my dry sack my sleeping bag is in to hang them. Then my pack, few remaining clothing items, boots, water and filter, and bear spray come to tent/vestibule. Sound about right? Yes, thanks. I’m excited about the trip. This will be my third visit to GNP, but first time staying in the backcountry. I’ve got a friend and his son planning to join me (if they can secure a walk up permit) and he’ll look to me for guidelines on what to do. Cleaning out all wrappers and tucked away energy bars will be key. I stuff trail mix and cliff bars in my packs waist belt pouch. That’s something likely to be overlooked! Thanks again for that reminder.
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Post by cweston on Jun 6, 2019 4:39:42 GMT -8
I may use my dry sack my sleeping bag is in to hang them. Then my pack, few remaining clothing items, boots, water and filter, and bear spray come to tent/vestibule. Sound about right? Yes, but don't use your sleeping bag's stuff sack--the LAST place you want to risk transferring food odors to is your sleeping bag. Just carry a separate bag to serve as a bear bag.
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Post by Chuck the Mauler on Jun 6, 2019 17:05:03 GMT -8
I've personally never hung clothes. Furthermore, I have never backpacked with anyone who does, and I spend a fair amount of time in brown bear country (Tetons, Yellowstone, Glacier, Denali to name a few) every year.
I put my rain cover over my pack and set it under the vestibule at night because my tent is too small for both me and my pack. In the tent I have my bear spray, boots and my headlamp. Backpack covered is under my vestibule. Food, garbage, toothpaste and brush, deodorant, cook pot / silverware that I've used, camp towel, all go in the bag I hang.
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Post by amac on Jun 7, 2019 4:45:53 GMT -8
I've personally never hung clothes. Furthermore, I have never backpacked with anyone who does, and I spend a fair amount of time in brown bear country (Tetons, Yellowstone, Glacier, Denali to name a few) every year. I put my rain cover over my pack and set it under the vestibule at night because my tent is too small for both me and my pack. In the tent I have my bear spray, boots and my headlamp. Backpack covered is under my vestibule. Food, garbage, toothpaste and brush, deodorant, cook pot / silverware that I've used, camp towel, all go in the bag I hang. Very good to know. Thanks!
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Post by whistlepunk on Jun 8, 2019 19:53:55 GMT -8
Haven't hanged in years and no problem. But I haven't done an ON in grizzly country in years either.
Never had a problem with black bear. Had fresh tracks right outside my tent in the morning and nothing disturbed. But I still keep spray in the tent.
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