RedDoug
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Post by RedDoug on Dec 14, 2015 10:35:55 GMT -8
As far as battles go, the Battle at Muir Hut is an extremely minor affair. Let me tell it as best as I have been able to put it together from the survivors, of which there were only two: Todd and Katz.
The Night before Muir Pass was spent at a junction where 3 rivers came together. As usual by the time I got into camp Todd and Katz had already set up camp and eaten and both were in their tents when I arrived. Evenings are my time of day! I set up camp, prepared a meal, made a small fire to burn trash- this got Todd out of his tent. He liked the idea of a fire. And as it was getting late and trail traffic was pretty much over for the day, evening is a good time to wash/clean up by the river. We both did that.
Time for tea and cookies, day over. Not much rain that day. I chalked it up as another splendid day on the JMT.
Morning. Both Todd and Katz were up early. I crawled out of my tent and they were mostly packed already. All three of us had our trail maps out. We were headed for Muir Pass. Campsites near the Pass were limited. It was agreed by both Todd and Katz that they would push on up to one of those campsites close to the summit and take it and hold a spot for me. That was clearly understood by all 3 of us. This is important, when hiking with a partner, or in a group- everyone must carry their own trail map. No exceptions.
Todd and Katz were soon gone and I took another 45 min to eat and pack up. I had no idea what I was getting into that day! Without doubt, that section of trail from the rivers junction to Muir Pass was the most "awe" inspiring section of trail yet. I walked up that trail like I was in a dream beside a stream with many waterfalls and under great trees and mountains rising up on either side. I stopped often just to sit and take it all in. I took picture after picture after picture. In fact, I took too many pictures, stopped to talk to too many other campers, took too many breaks, that the time got away from me and I didn't realize how fast the day was slipping away. It was spectacular scenery. I knew I would never be up that trail again. I wasn't going to rush it.
Along the trail, faster nobo'ers or sobo'ers will carry messages along to others on the trail. By mid-morning I decided I wanted to spend the night on the Pass summit and I had sent word up the trail with a couple of fast trekking PCT hikers for Todd and Katz that I wanted to push on to the summit and spend the night there. I thought that the message would find Todd and Katz in camp and they would not be concerned about me. What happened was something completely unexpected.
Somehow my messages got up the trail ok. I haven't pieced this all together yet. But, it went something like this. Katz got the message first and decided to spend the night at the summit, too, so he pushed on up arriving in mid- afternoon. I was still 3- 4 miles below the Pass when a sobo'er brought me word that Katz was at Muir hut waiting for me. I think my strongest expletive is Rats! I uttered it. Now I felt obligated to push on a little harder to make the summit. The day was fading fast, I was hungry, but I had to push on.
Then I met two more sobo'ers. Another message from Katz. He was cold, and was pushing on to Evolution Lake. Pressure off. I came to a small lake and stopped, and ate a hot meal. I felt better. Light is fading faster. I packed up and pushed on but I was still at least a mile or so below the summit when darkest engulfed me. I hiked another 30 minutes or so under headlamp and found a tent site. In morning light it turned out overlooking the last lake before the summit. And the rodents were terrible there all night long!!
Long before I set up camp, while Katz was still in Muir hut on the summit, Todd arrived. Todd is still thinking that the 3 of us will spend the night together. Knowing there was no water on the summit, Todd had picked up enough water for all 3 of us for the night and carried it to the Summit. From Todd I learned that Katz was a bit agitated, pacing, cold. Katz didn't want to wait- he was going to push on. Todd began to talk to Katz, something like, "You are RD's partner, why don't you wait for him? You never hike with him. We agreed to meet at a certain spot and I even carried all this water up here for us...." And, Katz responded in such a way that it provoked Todd to use stronger words than "rats".
This offended Katz and he left Muir Hut in a huff and took off down the trail licking his wounds. Todd dumped the water, and left too. The Battle at Muir Hut was over. I knew nothing about this until 2 days later when I caught up with Katz standing cold and wet next to his tent in the rain, not sure what to do. When I finally caught up with Katz, I asked about Todd. Katz didn't want to talk about Todd- he was obviously upset with him. "Why?" I asked. "He swore at me," was about all Katz said.
Back in grade school I would watch something that I never understood as a guy. Two grade school girls could be good friends. Insert a 3rd girl into the friendship and strange things can begin to happen- a rivalry that only is seen between girls, usually. The friendship between Todd and I was growing stronger as this trip went on. It would become stronger at Vermillion Valley Resort, but by the end of the trip I was beginning to wonder what was going on with Katz. Is there a trail fever something akin to cabin fever?
If anyone thinks about spending a night in Muir hut- don't do it. I talked with another backpacker who had done that once. He told me the hut is overrun with mice all night long.
When packing in a group, it is important to meet and keep any daily agenda agreed upon by others. This day, my slowness, Katz' lack of adequate clothing, ruined this rendezvous. I am wiser now.
Images of Muir Hut:
www.bing.com/images/search?q=muir+hut&qpvt=muir+hut&qpvt=muir+hut&FORM=IGRE
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Post by zeke on Dec 14, 2015 10:56:55 GMT -8
Been to Muir Hut twice, and the wind was ferocious both times. Leads me to believe it is always cold and windy up there. Nearly 12K ft, so no reason to believe otherwise. Both times were SOBO, exiting at Dusy Basin. You had a long slog uphill from that bridge near Grouse Meadow.
Strong words. I am sometimes surprised they don't happen more often among hikers. Maybe my background of 30 yrs in construction, and before, have made me immune to them. Even when spoken to me in anger, I don't take notice, other than to know I have incurred someone else's ire. I certainly wouldn't be bothered by them an hour or so later. Maybe I never grew out of the 3rd grade ability to get a bloody nose from a friend, and still be a friend.
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Post by wondermonkey on Dec 14, 2015 11:11:43 GMT -8
Interesting about new friends and what it does to already established relationships. Spot on.
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Post by RedDoug on Dec 14, 2015 11:21:55 GMT -8
Been to Muir Hut twice, and the wind was ferocious both times. Leads me to believe it is always cold and windy up there I reached Muir Pass before 9 am under full sun, little wind. It was still cold. I was prepared for that kind of night. Katz for sure wasn't prepared. I can understand his discomfort and as the sun was going down I doubt he would have waited for anyone. Todd was no doubt reacting to what he had been watching over 3- 4 days and the climax hit in Muir hut. I think if Katz had his way we would not have seen Todd again the rest of the trip, I was determined we would. Todd and I did well together. I don't mind backpacking alone. I do hate it when someone wants to hike a few paces behind me. The pattern of hiking alone during the day and meeting up at night is ideal with me.
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Post by zeke on Dec 14, 2015 11:30:38 GMT -8
Yep. Pass me or drop back 100 feet. I hate it when I feel like I am being herded. I find myself adjusting my own pace when I realize I am close to a hiking partner, backing off when I can, or passing if on flat ground. Zack understood if I was walking on his shadow, it meant I was ready to pass.
That pic was before 9 AM, and it was quite breezy.
I do hate it when someone wants to hike a few paces behind me.
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Post by RedDoug on Dec 14, 2015 11:57:51 GMT -8
Zeke, Another reason I don't like people close is I don't like to chat much when I am hiking. Pretty much I want to listen to what is going on around me. My senses are alive, I take it all in. I have only cowboy camped a few times, but I can't handle it. Especially if the sky is clear. There is just too much to look at and I can't let it go and fall asleep. I am just too much alive out there. Listen to this song about the CDT by Walkin' Jim Stotlz- this is it exactly: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUH6CwaemP4
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Post by rebeccad on Dec 14, 2015 12:54:45 GMT -8
I agree with you guys about people too close behind. I frequently have to insist that my husband just pass me and let me catch up at the next photo op (our average pace is pretty similar, but only because he takes more time with his photography). I'll second Zeke about the wind at Muir Hut, too--that's me on the left in that photo (my photo, too, but he has permission). I also recall that there is a notice in there that you are not supposed to camp in the hut, only take shelter in need. There was a tent platform out back, but--yow. I wouldn't want to try to sleep up there.
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Post by RedDoug on Dec 14, 2015 14:44:06 GMT -8
I never looked behind the hut. I came right up to the front door, went inside, took my pictures, spent about 30 min there and then moved on. I could have spend the night on Muir Pass and been all right. My actual plan was to spend the night star gazing and dozing, watch a sun rise, then move on.
Instead I ended up sleeping less than a mile from the summit. My pack was just outside next to my tent and it was under attack all night by rodents scratching away at it. Seems like I was up every 15- 20 min to slap my pack, send whatever it was scurrying off only to repeat and repeat and repeat the process. The higher up one sleeps it seems to me the more mice you had to contend with.
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Post by rebeccad on Dec 14, 2015 22:30:21 GMT -8
RD, I have always taken care to protect my stuff from mice and other rodents, ever since the time I was sleeping with the tent open and the head out...and woke up to find mice running through my hair. Ugh. I also had a trekking pole that got the handle pretty nibbled, maybe by mice, maybe porcupine...in any case, I never leave my pack outside, or anything else subject to damage by critters.
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Post by wondermonkey on Dec 15, 2015 5:33:39 GMT -8
.in any case, I never leave my pack outside, or anything else subject to damage by critters. One of the downsides of being a hammock camper versus tent is that there is no reasonable "inside" to full enclose. You can sortof get it done but not as easily.
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Post by rebeccad on Dec 15, 2015 7:57:14 GMT -8
One of the downsides of being a hammock camper versus tent is that there is no reasonable "inside" to full enclose. You can sortof get it done but not as easily. True. At that point, in some camps, hanging may be the only option. Mice can run down a rope, but if you string in your pot or similar, they will usually give up.
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Post by davesenesac on Dec 18, 2015 10:13:05 GMT -8
A lot of hikers when planning trail days focus on mileage along their routes without bothering to look carefully at vertical rise. On another board I we see fair numbers of one day itineraries offered on this section that is more often part of South Lake to North Lake semi-loop trips. And on that trail many go all the way from Grouse Meadows at 8200 to Muir Pass at 11980 however that is a strenuous 3800 feet of vertical and the mileage is over a dozen miles. With its superb scenery and several lakes in the higher elevations it works well as a 2-day section. On the north side of the pass, the landscapes between the pass and north end of Sapphire Lake is a rather boring treeless basin if rambling through after mid morning that is almost always breezy. By camping below the pass and getting up early the following morning in the typical calm air, that same boring landscape in season with green turf lawns besides the many lakes can be delightful mirroring the surrounding glaciated peaks. By late morning one will be down around Evolution Lake where the more enlightened will make camp and day hike to the many possibilities like Darwin Bench. David www.davidsenesac.com/2015_Trip_Chronicles/2015_Trip-Chronicles-0.html
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Post by davesenesac on Dec 18, 2015 11:00:58 GMT -8
zeke >>"... I am sometimes surprised they don't happen more often among hikers. Maybe my background of 30 yrs in construction, and before, have made me immune to them. Even when spoken to me in anger, I don't take notice, other than to know I have incurred someone else's ire. I certainly wouldn't be bothered by them an hour or so later. Maybe I never grew out of the 3rd grade ability to get a bloody nose from a friend, and still be a friend."
You're a good man zeke. A personality behavioral trait this person values. In corporate work places of large companies one will experience a full range of personalities and with more responsibility one will need to deal professionally with more differences of opinions and policy. Among those personalities are always a few overly emotional types that once they have disagreed about whatever, become angry, that may develop into long held grudges regardless of how professional the other person might be, which harms team work and group trust. In other words adults with mature behavior learn to disagree and move on for the general good.
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Post by RedDoug on Dec 18, 2015 11:55:33 GMT -8
By late morning one will be down around Evolution Lake where the more enlightened will make camp and day hike to the many possibilities like Darwin Bench. Heading nobo I hiked past Evolution Lake towards a ranger station where I spent the afternoon hunkered down waiting out a rain and hail event. I didn't get to the ranger station until the next day. I looked at a number of your flower pictures. Studio quality. and I see they are copyrighted, too. Very nice art work.
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