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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 10:29:54 GMT -8
I am considering picking up an Esbit Pocket Stove (3.25 ounces) and Esbit solid fuel tablets (box of 12 at .5 ounces) for backpacking. Seems like a simple setup and simple to use. I just mainly want to boil water. I welcome you sharing your experiences with the fuel and stove.
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Post by zeke on Dec 4, 2015 10:40:04 GMT -8
Not as light or efficient as an alcohol stove like the White Box, but many use them. Have to make sure you keep the fuel dry. Oh, and that 1/2 ounce weight thing is for each tablet.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 10:54:00 GMT -8
Are the fuel tablets allowed during burn bans. zeke, thanks for the heads up on the weight thing. |
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Post by Coolkat on Dec 4, 2015 10:56:37 GMT -8
I have a friend who uses an esbit stove. If all you're gonna do is bring water to a boil you can probably get 2 uses out of each tab. The draw back for me is all the soot on the bottom of the pot that he has to clean off all the time.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Dec 4, 2015 11:12:59 GMT -8
Are the fuel tablets allowed during burn bans. zeke , thanks for the heads up on the weight thing. In Yosemite, yes, other jurisdictions, say the Forest Service areas, better check. Yosemite page: "What are the Fire Restrictions? When and where fire restrictions are in effect, fires are only permitted in portable stoves using pressurized gas, liquid fuel, propane, or alcohol (including tablet/cube stoves). Wood fires (including twig stove fires) and charcoal fires are prohibited. Smoking is allowed only above 6,000 feet and in any campgrounds or picnic areas where wood and charcoal fires are allowed, or in buildings in which smoking is normally allowed. When and where fire restrictions are not in effect, wood fires are allowed in existing fire rings only and prohibited above 9,600 feet in elevation. Fires are also not allowed at Lower Cathedral Lake and within 1/4 mile of the shoreline of Kibbie Lake. Use dead and down wood only." www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/firerestrictions.htm |
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Post by amaruq on Dec 4, 2015 11:44:03 GMT -8
Smoking is allowed ... in buildings in which smoking is normally allowed. This throws me for a loop. Smoking hasn't been allowed indoors in Ontario in what seems like ages. |
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Post by zeke on Dec 4, 2015 11:57:58 GMT -8
Also, for every 5 pints you boil, esbit fuel will cost $1.25, while alcohol will cost 15c (unless you burn ever clear)
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Dec 4, 2015 12:31:38 GMT -8
Smoking is allowed ... in buildings in which smoking is normally allowed. This throws me for a loop. Smoking hasn't been allowed indoors in Ontario in what seems like ages. Here in the states that varies by jurisdiction, in many cities NO indoor smoking is allowed in any building with public access. What the situation is with federal buildings, as those in Yosemite would be, I don't know. Maybe some specified lodging rooms designated for smokers? That's often segregated where the building isn't entirely smoke free. Yes, being in a medical center where smoking isn't allowed within 50 feet of any entrance let alone inside the buildings, the whole thing would seem strange to me as well. |
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Post by amaruq on Dec 4, 2015 12:45:54 GMT -8
Yes, being in a medical center where smiling isn't allowed within 50 feet of any entrance let alone inside the buildings, the whole thing would seem strange to me as well. Well, that's a bit strict now, isn't it? Never knew medical centres to be so morose. |
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Dec 4, 2015 12:46:19 GMT -8
 I'm just so fond of auto-fill.....
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Post by tigger on Dec 4, 2015 13:24:44 GMT -8
I went through every stove type I could get my hands on for testing, including nine different alcohol stoves. My Go-to stove? Whitebox Alcohol stove, year round. I am currently considering a caldera cone stove also.
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Post by JRinGeorgia on Dec 4, 2015 14:23:47 GMT -8
Esbit tabs also have a "fishy" smell that some barely notice but others can't stand. I am currently considering a caldera cone stove also. Do it! I had a whitebox-style stove and switched to a Caldera Cone Foster's pot setup, with a Starlyte stove, works great. |
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Post by franco on Dec 4, 2015 14:58:14 GMT -8
I fiddled with several Esbit stoves/holders but could never get an efficient boil (that is : something close to my alcohol set up in weight and time) till I used the Caldera Cone version.
Still I went back to alcohol because it is easier for me to use and a lot less expensive .
(97% Ethanol here is about $3USD for 1 L)
The point here is that it isn't just about Esbit or alcohol but a specific set up (burner/windscreen/pot)
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Post by turley on Dec 5, 2015 0:32:44 GMT -8
I use a custom Four Dog Stove Titanium Esbit stove predominately with a SP600mls Mug. I can get 2 boils for 2 cups of water with 1 Esbit Tablet. Coghlans Fuel Tablets are approximately 1/2 the weight of Esbit but is only good for 1 boil but cost considerably less. www.coghlans.com/products/fuel-tablets-9565I've found this setup user friendly and reliable (and don't have to worry about liquid alcohol bottles leaking)....and carry a small silver dollar sized green brillo-pad which easily wipes off any residue the tablet leaves behind. Here is a BPL link to a discussion regarding the Coghlans Fuel Tablets: backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/106850/ |
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Post by dirthurts on Dec 5, 2015 5:06:49 GMT -8
I've tried these types of stoves in the past (solid fuel and alcohol) and I'm just not a fan. They work fine, but they seem more hassle than they are worth to me. I'd rather just carry the extra weight of a fuel can and pocket stove and not have to worry about fire bans, slow boil times, spills, etc.
I'll never notice the weight difference, but I'll notice the restrictions when I get to camp.
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