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Post by zipposdad on Nov 27, 2015 16:49:45 GMT -8
Well I have been gone so long that I had to reregister. I took the Summer off to move to a Condo so we would have more time to be out doors. Well, now we do. To reintro. I am Zippos Dad. When our son was a scout his camp name was Zippo so I was always called Zippos Dad. We are in the Grand Rapids area in Michigan. Im am considering the Z Packs Arc Blast 60L. Any comments are appreciated. I have bought previously from Z Packs and they have great customer service and products. I am considering the 60L due to the 47 L main body. I am curently using an Osprey Atmos 65L because everything fits and its comfortable.(55oz) I have upgraded my gear prior to buying the Osprey. Weight without Food and Water for Summer use varies from 9.77# to 13.25# (converted from oz-#) I have gone lighter to save volume as much as #. Basic gear includes Ba Scout Plus w/ footprint & carbon pegs. Exped AirPillow UL. Z Packs 40* quilt bag w/optional Hood. NeoAir X lite Pad. Ursack. Sawer Mini w/ Platypus 2L Bag. Either alcy or Pocket rocket & Ti cup and spork. Pee Bottle. Plus 10 essentials @ 25oz and personal (contacts,glasses,tooth pic,etc) + 1 ea (sox, underware and rain jacket) @ 32oz TOTAL 9.77# -13.25# I plan to keep essentials in the Z Pack Multi pack as a lid. I will post pics of my 8ft x 15FT gear closet when i finish the drop ceiling & lighting.
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Post by zeke on Nov 27, 2015 18:51:54 GMT -8
New site. All of us had to re-register. Welcome back. Other than that, I have nothing. No ideas, no experience with Z Packs.
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Post by trinity on Nov 27, 2015 19:49:09 GMT -8
I also have no experience with the pack, but wanted to welcome you back as well. And congrats on getting your base weight down so low. From what I've read about the Arc Blast I would expect it to fit your needs well, though I have to wonder if you really need that much volume. You're an experienced enough backpacker to know that fit is very individual, and there won't be any way of knowing whether or not it is going to work until you've ordered one and tried it on. I have read numerous positive reviews of this pack at backpackinglight over the years, you might try posing your question there as well. Anyhoo, glad to have another familiar name from the old forums back.
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Post by cahiker on Nov 28, 2015 13:19:30 GMT -8
I have the 60l Arc Blast and the main body isn't all that large. My 55l Gregory pack has a larger main compartment. I think a lot of the measured volume is in the side pockets and mesh pocket. I'd get the 60l for the times you have a lot of food or something else bulky - You can always not compress your quilt very much and tighten down on the side straps when you have a small load.
I love the side pockets on the Arc Blast. I can easily get bottles in and out while hiking, but the elastic is pretty good at keeping stuff in. I ordered one hip belt pocket and it is very roomy and convenient too.
Sounds like you use an ursak, but if you ever need to carry a bear canister it's a bit finicky to fit in the pack. It needs to ride in the top half of the pack, vertically, above the middle horizontal bar on the frame.
I love the pack for <25 lbs, no bear canister hikes. It's very light, I like the airflow on my back and the design of all the pockets. It sounds like it would work very well for you, given your parameters.
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Post by zipposdad on Nov 28, 2015 14:28:26 GMT -8
Thanks cahiker. Now I just need to pick my add ons. The Hip Belt pocket whould be a good option
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Post by JRinGeorgia on Nov 29, 2015 15:55:16 GMT -8
I have the Arc Blast 52L, it's the 2014 edition so does not have the adjustable shoulder strap / torso height. Otherwise the bag is pretty much the same as the new edition.
I love this pack. It's comfortable but not "cushy". I've used it for 7+ day treks with a Garcia bear canister and was never tight for space (could still get 3 rolls on the top closure), yet for weekend overnighters without the bear can it's still fine just cinched down.
I ordered mine with lumbar pad, load lifters, two hip belt pockets, and no hydration port and am pleased with all these choices. I definitely suggest getting the lumbar pad, without it you might feel a hollow at the bottom back of the pack. The load lifters on mine don't attach to the frame so they really are more load cinchers, but they bring the top of the pack in closer to my shoulders and that feels a lot better to me (I think the updated version the load lifters do attach to the frame but not sure about that).
The hip belt pockets are huge and bulge out pretty well when full. At first I wasn't sure about them but have come to really like them -- my former pack had several pockets that the Arc Blast does not have, and all the ditty stuff that would have gone into those pack pockets now go into the hip belt pockets. I really like having all those things at my fingertips, without having to take my pack off. Camera, PLB, FAK, repair, headlamp, headnet, pencil and pad, permit and ID, snacks and more are always accessible on the go. I've attached the pockets as far to the front of the hip belt as possible so they are not in the way of my swinging arms. If you're getting the multipack you may not need the storage offered by both or even one hip belt pocket, but if so my preference would be to wear the multi as a chest pocket rather than a lid.
The Arc Blast is essentially waterproof, being made of cuben with taped seams and a rolltop closure, so my stuff has stayed dry through downpours without a pack cover or liner.
I agree the side pockets are relatively easy for water bottles on the go.
Keep in mind that the difference between the 52L and 60L models is the depth/circumference of the pack body, both models are the same height. So with the 60L the weight will be slightly further off your back.
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Post by swmtnbackpacker on Nov 30, 2015 7:15:37 GMT -8
I've used an arc blast 60 and it was great on a decent trail. I felt it was the only taut mesh suspension that actually provided airflow. The only downside was worrying about thorns as the material seems a bit thinner than regular pack-cloth.
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