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Post by desert dweller on Nov 19, 2015 10:43:52 GMT -8
And it was held by the Spanish. Before the Pilgrims, Floridians celebrated the ‘real’ first Thanksgiving NOVEMBER 18, 2015
STEPHENIE LIVINGSTON “A Mass and feast of Thanksgiving was the first thing Menendez did, and he invited all of the local native people who were so curious about them,” she said.
Besides salted pork and red wine, those in attendance ate garbanzo beans, olives and hard sea biscuits. The meal may have also included Caribbean foods that were probably collected when Menéndez stopped to regroup and resupply at San Juan Puerto Rico before continuing to Florida, Deagan said. If the Timucua contributed, it would likely have been with corn, fresh fish, berries or beans, she said.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Nov 19, 2015 11:10:04 GMT -8
No Turkey? Not a "real" Thanksgiving. Otherwise I'd say the date of the first Thanksgiving was about 11,500 years BPE to celebrate that first harvest from the first farming. Assuming hunter gatherers just rolled with the seasons... The first North American one might be either when the Vikings celebrated in Newfoundland or the Basque as they closed down their fishing camps on Cape Cod (turkey!) before returning home with the season's salted catch, both centuries before the Spanish explored the Western Hemisphere. Plus, heck, the Mississippian city states with their transition to agriculture, probably held harvest feasts in the fall (aka "Thanksgiving") as they stored away the fall harvest of corn etc. www.cabrillo.edu/~crsmith/mississ.html
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Post by atvtuner on Nov 19, 2015 13:29:50 GMT -8
Pedro Menéndez de Avilés eh? Feast of Conquest. Heartwarming.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 14:21:07 GMT -8
Yeah, it sounds like that writer is looking for the first ethno-centric, pseudo-christian, invader-settler, European-conqueror sort of first "Thanksgiving." Far be it from the writer to suppose that some "savage" wanderer entering the continent just after the last ice age might actually have been thankful for having something to eat.
Ooops, excuse me, the truth of the matter (whatever it is) probably would not be so self-serving to Florida or Massachusetts, and someone's favored Alma Mater or religious affiliation.
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Post by Lonewolf on Nov 20, 2015 18:39:01 GMT -8
The holiday otherwise known as "Thankstaking" by many Native Americans.....
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