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Post by outbac1 on Apr 13, 2018 5:44:50 GMT -8
In 1985 three men walked to the south pole. A distance of 873 miles in 70 days. The consumed an average of 4800 cal per day. The weight of food per day was 934g each. The diet was high in fat as fat has more cal/oz. They all lost weight. Between about 7 -10 kg each. This is documented in the book "In The Footsteps of Scott" by Roger Mear and Robert Swan. From this it would appear high fat content is the way to go.  |
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Post by zeke on Apr 13, 2018 5:53:16 GMT -8
That's over 2 pounds of food per day. Good thing they were on snow and ice, where it could be drug, instead of needing to carry all of that.
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Post by dice on Apr 13, 2018 7:23:02 GMT -8
That's over 2 pounds of food per day. Good thing they were on snow and ice, where it could be drug, instead of needing to carry all of that. hah right 140 pounds in a sled or two isn't that bad, I do a lot of ice fishing |
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Apr 17, 2018 7:10:58 GMT -8
I created an extensive one about 10 years ago when I was attempting a 10-day through-hike in the Adks. I'll try to look it up.
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Post by dice on Apr 17, 2018 7:59:47 GMT -8
I created an extensive one about 10 years ago when I was attempting a 10-day through-hike in the Adks. I'll try to look it up. that would be awesome if you can find it |
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Post by rebeccad on Apr 17, 2018 8:46:51 GMT -8
I created an extensive one about 10 years ago when I was attempting a 10-day through-hike in the Adks. I'll try to look it up. that would be awesome if you can find it Yeah, I'd like to see it too! I'm working on a 9-10 day menu for this summer. Fortunately, we are old and don't need as many calories as Dice (and we can afford to lose a few pounds, which it sounds like you can't). But still--we need a lot of calories and they need to be as light and compact as possible, so I'm cruising for ideas, especially around lunches. |
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Post by zeke on Apr 17, 2018 9:37:36 GMT -8
Those French's Fried Onions are packed with fats, and calories, if you can stand them. That's a 6 ounce container with 1080 calories. That gives me an idea. 4 of those would be 1.5 lbs. and 4320 calories. That might just be a solution to your need to keep the food light and still get 4000 calories per day. LOL 
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Post by dice on Apr 17, 2018 9:56:59 GMT -8
HAH they arn't terrible, might have to throw some in if I bring a stove
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Post by zeke on Apr 17, 2018 10:17:27 GMT -8
you could eat them right out of the package, like chips. Snack on them as you walk, meeting the 1000 calorie lunch without stopping. 
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Post by dice on Apr 17, 2018 10:53:10 GMT -8
lmfao just because they arn't terrible dosent make them a good potato chip  |
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Post by zeke on Apr 17, 2018 11:13:45 GMT -8
Same company makes fried jalapenos, and those onions with a white cheddar flavoring. Same calorie content. The jalapenos I could eat straight out of the container. After a few days of eating them for lunch, I bet I'd know it at the cathole.
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Post by bookmark2 on Apr 17, 2018 17:17:22 GMT -8
my goal is 3500-4000 calories per 1.5 pound of food or better for a 10 day meal plan, a pound a day would be nice but if your not just drinking olive oil then your probley not gonna get it. What's wrong with drinking olive oil? I add it to every backpacking meal . Have been known to just take a shot. |
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Post by dice on Apr 18, 2018 6:43:30 GMT -8
Same company makes fried jalapenos, and those onions with a white cheddar flavoring. Same calorie content. The jalapenos I could eat straight out of the container. After a few days of eating them for lunch, I bet I'd know it at the cathole. the jalapenos might be a good chip replacement but yeah day 2 if you eat them is gonna burn, and then your gonna get the butt chafe lmao |
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Post by gcvrsa on Aug 5, 2018 18:59:45 GMT -8
Just so you know:
Fat = 9 calories per gram
Carbohydrates and Proteins = 4 calories per gram
So, 454 g (1 lb) of pure fat contains 4086 calories. In order to get 4000 calories out of 1.5 lbs of food, you would need to have a diet that is about 40% fat, 60% carbs and protein combined. 1634.4+1089.6=2724*1.5=4086 calories.
A "Zone diet" of 30% fat, 40% carbs, 30% protein would get you 1225.8+1271.2=2497 calories per lb, or 3745.5 calories for 1.5 lbs of food. However, that is without accounting for moisture or fiber, which I assure you, you are going to want to have.
Carbohydrates and proteins are generally easier to compact and handle than fats. Realistically, the most portable sources of pure fat are vegetable oils, lard, or ghee. Butter has the disadvantage of containing about 15-20% water and milk solids. Fortunately, all of them can be eaten without cooking, as they are liquid or spreadable, and perhaps even more importantly palatable, at room temperature.
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Post by gcvrsa on Aug 5, 2018 19:14:55 GMT -8
Pure fat = 255.15 calories per ounce (28.35 grams)
Pure protein or carbohydrate = 113.4 calories per ounce
Pure water = 0 calories per ounce
Pure fiber = 0 calories per ounce*
*(The FDA actually estimates that dietary fiber generates 1.5 calories per gram, or 42.525 calories per ounce, due to bacterial fermentation in the colon. Whether or not this is of any nutritional use is debatable.)
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