whistlepunk
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Post by whistlepunk on Jun 24, 2017 14:38:26 GMT -8
The ID is also needed to enter federal courthouses.
So if I am called for jury duty, and cannot enter the courthouse because of the wrong ID, am I excused?
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Post by rebeccad on Jun 24, 2017 21:10:51 GMT -8
The ID is also needed to enter federal courthouses. So if I am called for jury duty, and cannot enter the courthouse because of the wrong ID, am I excused? Interesting question. They can't exactly penalize you for not spending $80 on a passport, or for living in a state that doesn't meet their standards. So I would have to assume that you would have to be excused.
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Post by zeke on Jun 25, 2017 3:45:49 GMT -8
I'd bet the Jury Duty letter along with any ID, qualified or not, would allow you entrance.
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Post by amaruq on Jun 26, 2017 4:45:59 GMT -8
I remember the days, seemingly ages ago, of being able to go to the US on a Canadian driver's licence. But that all changed and it has been passport only for a long time now.
We still fly domestically on a standard driver's licence, or any two pieces of non-photo ID that show the full name, birth-date, and gender. Here in Ontario we typically carry two forms of government issued photo-ID: a driver's licence (or photo-ID card for the non-drivers) and our healthcard. Both can be accepted as photo-ID where required though the latter is often rejected out of concern for its strict privacy controls.
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Post by hikingtiger on Jun 26, 2017 5:55:14 GMT -8
I remember the days, seemingly ages ago, of being able to go to the US on a Canadian driver's licence. I did just that, but in the opposite direction. Though, now that I think about it, it was actually ages ago...20 years if memory serves.
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Post by hikingtiger on Jun 26, 2017 5:56:58 GMT -8
My state is in compliance. I find it mildly amusing that AL and TN are way ahead of many states in the compliance "race."
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Jun 26, 2017 7:08:57 GMT -8
It appears there is no cause for alarm for ID's that expire in 2017. From NYS DMV website:
New York State has been granted an extension to the REAL ID Act only through October 10, 2017. What does that mean?
The extension’s 2017 expiration is no cause for concern, as DHS grants extensions only on an annual basis and New York State anticipates having a REAL ID extension until becoming fully compliant with the Act. That means New Yorkers can continue to use their current state-issued driver license or ID card to enter federal buildings or board a domestic flight until October 1, 2020.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Jun 26, 2017 7:11:48 GMT -8
I remember the days, seemingly ages ago, of being able to go to the US on a Canadian driver's licence. But that all changed and it has been passport only for a long time now. Does Canada have an optional "enhanced" driver's license? I know my enhanced license from NYS allows me to travel to Mexico and Canada without a passport. Again from the NYS DMV website: Doesn’t DMV already produce an acceptable REAL ID document?
Yes. Since 2008, DMV has offered an enhanced driver license and ID card, commonly called an “EDL,” that is acceptable for access to federal buildings and to board domestic flights. New Yorkers can obtain an EDL at DMV offices. See details on our enhanced license or ID. The EDL was designed to demonstrate U.S. citizenship for re-entry to the U.S. at land and sea borders, but it is also accepted for all REAL ID purposes.
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Post by amaruq on Jun 26, 2017 7:51:14 GMT -8
Does Canada have an optional "enhanced" driver's license? It probably depends on the province, though I imagine most do. Ontario does. To be honest, if I spent enough time going to and from the US, I'd probably opt for NEXUS over an EDL.
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Post by dayhiker on Jun 26, 2017 11:14:26 GMT -8
www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-real-id-law-bill-senate/Based on all your comments and this article, it seems if you are in a compliant state YOU have until 2020 to actually get the ID from your state. It also seems like 1/1/18 is the planned date for enforcement at airports, so unless one needs to enter a Federal Court House etc. , even folks in Oregon are ok until then. It does seem like those in non-compliant states who are trying to comply will be granted further extensions, though that seemed a bit unclear in the article. Oregon isn't trying , wanting Federal money to do so, and if they start to comply it seems uncertain on what extensions they will get.
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Post by dayhiker on Jun 26, 2017 11:44:20 GMT -8
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Post by sarbar on Jun 28, 2017 17:25:26 GMT -8
I find it mildly amusing that AL and TN are way ahead of many states in the compliance "race." Border states have issues....those in the core of the US maybe not so much....
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