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Post by bradmacmt on Apr 19, 2017 15:17:31 GMT -8
I'm wondering if anyone actually (and carefully) read the article... just "moving" isn't the entire answer... and that without even bringing the gorilla in the room, diet, into the equation.
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Post by toejam on Apr 19, 2017 16:58:39 GMT -8
I'm wondering if anyone actually (and carefully) read the article Hey, we're old. We think we already know all the answers!
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Post by hikerjer on Apr 19, 2017 17:26:30 GMT -8
Oh, I don't know about that. Seems the older I get, the less I know. However, my 20 something year old sons seem to know everything. Just ask them.
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Post by rebeccad on Apr 19, 2017 19:43:32 GMT -8
I'm wondering if anyone actually (and carefully) read the article... just "moving" isn't the entire answer... and that without even bringing the gorilla in the room, diet, into the equation. I did. And noted what it says about intervals. But I'm also thinking about how that applies to endurance exercise; it may be that we need to do intensity training to prepare ourselves for endurance events, counter-intuitive though that may seem. The article doesn't address that kind of issue, just what kind of exercise best diminishes or restores the ravages of age.
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Post by BigLoad on Apr 19, 2017 20:22:20 GMT -8
... And noted what it says about intervals. But I'm also thinking about how that applies to endurance exercise; it may be that we need to do intensity training to prepare ourselves for endurance events, counter-intuitive though that may seem. Yes, there's plenty of data to show the benefit of interval training in endurance activities such as distance running. Interval training bumps up the limit on how fast you can run (by increasing oxygen delivery, among other things), and the endurance training improves how much of that speed you can maintain for longer duration. You can gauge the quality of different aspects of your training by graphing how quickly your pace degrades with distance. I was kind of a freak: my base speed was never that great, but I could tolerate an unusually high heart rate for a long time, so my pace fell off more slowly than average with distance. Consequently my training volume to achieve a given target pace was well below average, but intervals had to occupy a bigger fraction of that volume than for people with more natural short-range speed.
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Post by bradmacmt on Apr 20, 2017 5:08:25 GMT -8
I always assume my favorite librarian reads everything!
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Post by Hungry Jack on Apr 20, 2017 5:10:04 GMT -8
I read it. But I am getting old and forgot what the article said.
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Post by davesenesac on Apr 20, 2017 6:17:21 GMT -8
Must admit for decades have been rather poor at exercising consistently outside of my outdoor activities. Just lazy after getting home and will instead veg and eat lots of food till getting out again. Sure there are always periods when I'll jog or do situps push-ups climb stairs with a heavy pack etc each day for weeks. Oh and have never been one to stretch. But not long term.
And seem to be doing just fine so far for an old guy. My carrying weight including clothes while out doing any photography is over 25 pounds. Only got 15 days in skiing this winter but was pounding through a whole lot of bumps each day that would put 98% of twentsomethings on a sick day. Last summer all my backpacking for this 140# 66" person was while lugging over 60#.
The older I get the more I feel like vegging whenever I get home and am sort of sore longer afterwards. So laying low for awhile between activities maybe ain't so bad. Well as long as one does not go through long weeks months on the couch.
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Post by tigger on Apr 20, 2017 7:00:27 GMT -8
I'll admit it. I didn't read the article. I've been doing research on how beer may or may not affect muscle growth. I'll post my own thoughts after another twenty years of research.
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Post by Hungry Jack on Apr 20, 2017 7:55:41 GMT -8
I'll admit it. I didn't read the article. I've been doing research on how beer may or may not affect muscle growth. I'll post my own thoughts after another twenty years of research. I have noticed that copious amounts of beer gives one exceptional musculature and physical strength--until you get your arse kicked in the bar fight.
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Post by daveg on Apr 20, 2017 7:56:58 GMT -8
For all you cyclists, good news: "The study, published on Thursday in the BMJ, found that compared to 'a non-active commute', riding a bike to work was associated with a 45 percent lower risk of cancer and a 46 percent lower risk of heart disease. "'Walking to work was associated with lower risk of heart disease, but unlike cycling was not associated with a significantly lower risk of cancer or overall death,' the university's Carlos Celis-Morales said. "'This may be because walkers commuted shorter distances than cyclists – typically 6 miles per week, compared with 30 miles per week – and walking is generally a lower intensity of exercise than cycling.'" ArticleI hike 15 - 20 miles a week carrying weight at a local park with hills. I'm guessing that puts me in between.
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Post by ErnieW on Apr 20, 2017 8:11:30 GMT -8
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Post by reuben on Apr 20, 2017 8:33:04 GMT -8
I'll post my own thoughts after another twenty years of research. And what are we supposed to do in the meantime? The president is cutting all sorts of federal spending on research, we we're forced to rely on independent researchers like you. Oh, never mind, I'll conduct my own study...
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Post by reuben on Apr 20, 2017 9:14:27 GMT -8
I'll post my own thoughts after another twenty years of research. Yeah, right. Like you'll have any of your own after another twenty years.
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Post by hikingtiger on Apr 20, 2017 9:17:03 GMT -8
compared to 'a non-active commute', riding a bike to work was associated with a 45 percent lower risk of cancer and a 46 percent lower risk of heart disease. One day, I'll have to live reasonably close enough to work to bike in. Currently, it's 38 miles each way, mostly on divided four-lane roads (speed limit of 65mph...actual speeds higher. big shocker, I know.) Not sure the benefits would outweigh the risks. Though, if I could just make it to the descent off the mountain, that part would be fun...once.
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