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Post by bradmacmt on Mar 9, 2017 15:14:02 GMT -8
I likely haven't visited the TPA more than 4 times in all the years on this (and the other) forum. I'm a-political essentially, being quite certain politicians have no answers and the larger issues of life are not political, but are of a more spiritual nature.
The Trailhead Forum is a place where we talk about all sorts of non-backpacking related stuff. It's essentially the only place I post... Should we eliminate it as well?
Chickenchit move to remove and re-brand it.
Just because a few have their panties in a wad over people ONLY posting over at TPA, it's going away? I'm neither a liberal or a conservative. I tackle issues as I see them, but this sort of move is what makes a lot of people wrinkle their eyebrows and think "Liberal Nanny Nation Control." There is most certainly a tyranny of the right, but rest assured there is a tyranny of the left as well... this would meet that classification IMO.
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Post by desert dweller on Mar 9, 2017 15:14:37 GMT -8
Really? Then this will be my last post. I am deleting my account right now. That's my opinion. Why would you quit? I have no qualms about anything you have posted and I certainly have no control. Are you mistaking me for zeke? |
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Post by atvtuner on Mar 9, 2017 15:14:45 GMT -8
TPA drew an inordinate amount of Moderator time and effort. We should pay you more.  |
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Post by bradmacmt on Mar 9, 2017 15:17:13 GMT -8
TPA drew an inordinate amount of Moderator time and effort. It was not conducive to a friendly chat around a campfire. It seemed to draw out the worst in posters. The new section will be watched closely, until the message is clear. As for it being arbitrary, nothing could be further from the truth. Discussions were held, cooler heads prevailed, until things just got worse. This change is actually what was intended originally by bp2go when he first set up TPA. There are plenty of places to discuss those other things, at other locations. Just not here. And that right there is the problem... why does anyone feel the need to "moderate" a free exchange of ideas? Let it be... laissez faire |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 15:20:48 GMT -8
It is necessary and appropriate. The courtesy of asking us would have gone a long way. But the way you executed seems so arbitrary it leaves a poor taste in our mouths (or at least mine)! The people expressed their bum hurt in this thread: bpbasecamp.freeforums.net/post/89404/thread and it is those people who by expressing their bum hurt that brought about the new improved changes. And I know who you are. |
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Post by BigLoad on Mar 9, 2017 15:21:06 GMT -8
... but I think anyone who's been in TPA knows that it's got nothing to do with backpacking and seems largely to just draw out the worst in posters. I feel like I've underperformed. I think I can be far worse than that, I just really haven't put my mind to it. |
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Post by desert dweller on Mar 9, 2017 15:21:11 GMT -8
There are plenty of places to discuss those other things, at other locations. Just not here. Limiting expression of any one subject will not work. People will still express them in TR or even the new forum. If you choose to delete topics you deem as "inappropriate", then this place will no longer reflect the innate "freedom" outdoor lovers have. Good luck. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 15:36:04 GMT -8
rebeccad TPA was just one form of entertainment for me whiles waiting for Backpacking trips to come along. A mental exercise of staying in the lines of the forum rules, whiles pushing the limits of the forum rules.
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Post by driftwoody on Mar 9, 2017 15:38:50 GMT -8
It is a high point of my morning to see who is indignant about what political crisis today. Wow. Just wow. I'd rather go hiking. That's not an option while eating lunch at work. |
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Post by driftwoody on Mar 9, 2017 15:43:43 GMT -8
Bullshit, people that avoid conflict have no place in the wilderness. It's one thing to avoid conflict. It's something else altogether when those who find it distasteful prohibit others from engaging in it. |
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Post by reuben on Mar 9, 2017 16:01:12 GMT -8
That's not an option while eating lunch at work. Just because ranting on the internet is an option while eating lunch at work doesn't meant that it's a good one. |
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Post by gabby on Mar 9, 2017 16:04:17 GMT -8
I'm shocked that, despite there being some really questionable stuff there, you just "trash canned" all of it, mostly - at least from my perspective - without warning.
But, whatever...
ETA: I'd be interested, just out of curiosity, who was on the "committee" that decided to kill the forum.
And, yes, it had degenerated of late, mostly because of the work of just a few people, but TPA had, over the years, contributed to - at times - at least a small amount of understanding. I used it to hone my debating skills, which aren't all that good. Lately, I'd drifted back to just reading the news. There's not much I really want - or ever wanted - to discuss about insanity, so I have been absent most of the time lately.
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Post by driftwoody on Mar 9, 2017 16:15:31 GMT -8
That's not an option while eating lunch at work. Just because ranting on the internet is an option while eating lunch at work doesn't meant that it's a good one. Like everyone who participated in the now defunct TPA, you are free to express your opinion -- and others are free to disagree. |
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Post by rebeccad on Mar 9, 2017 17:03:38 GMT -8
Let me be clear: TPA did require moderation, because people there tended to lose all perspective, which resulted in personal attacks, as well as language that went beyond the pale. I don't think it was ever the intention of these forums to provide a space for people to behave badly, and I see no reason why Zeke or any of us should have to deal with the kind of vitriol I have seen there when I've peeked in.
I missed whatever the melt-down was that pushed it over the edge, but I have confidence in the judgement of my fellow Mods.
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Post by ecocentric on Mar 9, 2017 17:09:24 GMT -8
TPA was a refuge to express my disdain for the status quo. Take that away from me, and I have little reason to participate in your TEA party.
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