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Post by Chuck the Mauler on Apr 25, 2024 15:41:08 GMT -8
Looking for a little help for my brother who'll be spending some time in and around Utah in early June. From Moab they are heading to Springdale for 2 nights. They had hoped to get permits for Angles Landing but didn't "win" the lottery. Now he's looking for suggestions in the area. I've only been to Zion once, so I'm not much help. I suggested Buckskin Gulch or try to get a permit in Kanab for "The Wave". But that's almost a 2 hour drive. Other than that, I've got nothing. It doesn't have to be hikes. It could be just cool landscape.
What do you guys got for me to pass along?
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Post by starwalker on Apr 25, 2024 20:55:54 GMT -8
One of my favorite hikes when I worked there was the West Rim Trail starting at Lava Point and winding across and down into Zion Canyon. I met very few people and saw some magnificent vistas. Of course, when you go past Scouts Lookout, then there are numbers of people although I don't know how many there are now that there is a limit on Angels Landing. I also suggest hiking down to Kolob Arch from the west side of the Park. Another hike I enjoyed was parking on the east side of the Park, permit required, and hiking to Cable and Deertrap Mountains. I don't know about Observation Point now that there has been a rockslide which blocked the trail up to the Point from the Canyon. Of course, the Subway is a great location, but you have to get an advance reservation now, I believe.
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Post by absarokanaut on Apr 26, 2024 6:42:19 GMT -8
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Post by trinity on Apr 26, 2024 17:11:08 GMT -8
I know nothing about Utah. Just wanted to say it's good to see you back. Seems like it's been a while.
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Post by Chuck the Mauler on Apr 27, 2024 12:09:36 GMT -8
Hey, trinity. I'm still around. I just don't post much these days as the forums aren't what they once were. I still spend 30ish nights a year in a tent and backpack as much as I can. I used to backpack with Joey (RobinHood). But he seems to be on a new mission and has ghosted many of his old hiking buddy's. I still backpack with Dorf and many others from the forums...I try to keep in touch with those who have hung up their boots too. Anyway, good to hear from you.
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Post by trinity on Apr 29, 2024 13:53:48 GMT -8
the forums aren't what they once were. Very true. I miss the days when we had lots of posters, lots of gear talk, and the most active forum wasn't TPA. But still some great folks hanging around, so glad you're still here, and glad you're still getting out on the trail.
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Post by Coolkat on Apr 30, 2024 3:38:45 GMT -8
..and the most active forum wasn't TPA. I'm not part of the original group but I'll second that anyway.
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Post by zeke on Apr 30, 2024 7:45:03 GMT -8
Narrows, West Rim, Hidden Canyon, all favs from Zion. June will be crowded and hot. Best of luck.
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Post by jazzmom on May 1, 2024 17:54:49 GMT -8
They do run a second lottery for Angel's Landing every day for the following day, so your brother has another chance. In Zion, I personally think the Narrows is the best hike (much better than Angel's Landing, frankly.) And the added benefit in June is that you're hiking in water in a shaded canyon. There's also the Subway (permit required) and Taylor Creek. Joe Braun has a good website for Zion hikes - www.citrusmilo.com/zionguide/Expect Zion to be super crowded. I'm guessing it will be the next park to go to timed entry. The other obvious place to go nearby would be Bryce. Less crowded, higher elevation (cooler) and stunningly beautiful. If they're camping, the campground fills up very quickly.
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Post by BigLoad on May 2, 2024 21:04:59 GMT -8
I liked the East Rim Trail in Zion better than Angel's Landing, partly for the variety of what you see, and partly because the latter had less in common with hiking than it did with waiting in line to enter a sold-out museum exhibit.
We went around Thanksgiving, which is nominally out of season, and it was still very crowded in the main part of the park. June is going to be tough. We stayed at cabins up on the rim, so we were able to walk into the park. I drove in once and I'll never do it again.
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Post by absarokanaut on May 3, 2024 14:46:47 GMT -8
the forums aren't what they once were. Very true. I miss the days when we had lots of posters, lots of gear talk, and the most active forum wasn't TPA. But still some great folks hanging around, so glad you're still here, and glad you're still getting out on the trail. Political posts were unequivocally the most "popular" on the board when they were still in the Trailhead Register before all the snowflakes complained that they didn't have the restraint to just not look and scroll on by posts or leave them whenever they got uncomfortable because that upset the alternative realities they clung too. Remember our Gay Marriage differences Chuck? The fact is placating all you Proud boys and Daughters of the American Revolution and exiling politics from the TR is what sent so many hikers walking. In all seriousness and back on topic in addition to the classics in Zion my buddy Dunky Dog and I really liked Eagle Crags. Another trip Snow Canyon satiated more than just my eyes. But we/I did those in desert Spring, not summer. After waking up to just under 6" of snow this morning seeing it is forecast to be 69 degrees warmer in Springdale tomorrow than what I woke up to Thursday morning I'm horrified to think what that oven will be blasting two months from now. Knowing the little of you I do Chuck I know you'll prepare them but in the words of Phil Rizutto and Harry Carey "Holy Cow!"
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Post by rebeccad on May 4, 2024 8:07:55 GMT -8
I have just two words to make it feasible to do much of anything out there in summer: predawn start.
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Post by Chuck the Mauler on May 13, 2024 16:37:06 GMT -8
Thanks all for taking the time to respond. I'll continue to research in hopes of preparing my brother as best I can. But in all fairness, he introduced me to backpacking over 35 years ago. So he'll have a pretty good idea of what to plan for. This is their first time in Utah and have some pretty solid plans. That being said, I would never plan a trip there in June unless I was floating Meander Canyon or something that lent itself to cooler canyons and water. As always, I will report back with a full trip report as that is the only payment that was ever hoped for when doling out information here on the forums.
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Post by rebeccad on May 13, 2024 17:51:59 GMT -8
Chuck the Mauler, we once backpacked in Cap Reef in July. Granted, the entire trip was between 6 p.m. and 11 the next morning, but it can be done. And if things are too hot and miserable, they can head to Cedar Breaks. At 10,000’, temps there are much more reasonable, and there are bristlecones.
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Post by swiftdream on May 14, 2024 8:37:30 GMT -8
We have at least 500 bag nights in southern Utah and just love the place. The only time we go is May or October but early June might work but it’s a gamble. Could go either way. The heat doesn’t bother us so we would still go in early June if that was the only choice, just take more water. Depends on how well you are acclimated to the heat. Some take it well but we’ve run into folks out there that are red faced and miserable. A couple of them had obviously brand new equipment and were lost, kept poking their heads out from behind a rock formation in a timid manner almost afraid to ask for help, so we gave gave them a primer in immediate navigation and then gave them our map.
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