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Post by thedude on Mar 20, 2023 15:56:30 GMT -8
Hello again,
I came by here around this time last year to plan a trip to the Vogelsang High Sierra area and had a fantastic trip due in no small part to the advice I received in this forum. So I am back again after successfully winning a lottery spot via Beehive/Hetchy Hetch near the end of August. So anyone who is familiar with that area, I would appreciate some suggestions for routes and other suggestions for this trip.
I very much enjoyed the "road less traveled" aspect of the Vogelsang area and loved the altitude and the alpine lakes. I can see that the Pacific Crest Trail is accessible via Hetchy Hetch but wonder if that is an area of the PCT that is must see or if it would be a better idea to avoid that section assuming I can even use the PCT with a regular wilderness permit.
It seems like my two most obvious routes are to the west near lake Eleanor where I can hit some altitude on the border of Yosemite and Stanislaus. Or I can go due north and then east and hit the Sierra Nevadas, which frankly sounds awesome. I am pretty flexible on timing, I would like to hike for anywhere from 5-8 days and so long as public transportation is accessible I would be fine with taking the bus back to my car should I park it near the Beehive trailhead where my adventure starts.
So those are some general thoughts. Let me know if anything is absolutely out of the question and any suggestions you would have for someone who has done Vogelsang and wants to experience the highlights as far as what is doable via Hetchy Hetch and the Sierra Nevadas/PCT/JMT.
Thanks again!
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Post by thedude on Mar 20, 2023 18:26:01 GMT -8
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Mar 22, 2023 21:39:45 GMT -8
The Lake Vernon Rancheria Falls loop would be nice then, a more reasonable mileage for five days than 88 miles I’d think. Otherwise you could extend by heading over Rancheria Mountain and down to Pate Valley instead of past the falls and among the lakeshore and then up the Grand Canyon of the Tuolumne to view the countless great water features the river forms as it heads down canyon. A return then might be yarts plus a hitch from the 120 Big Oak Flats rd. a sign could help. Hetch Hetchy is tough for anything with it being a dead end. www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/hetch-hetchy-area-trails.htmA Plan B could be check the trailhead availability and grab a permit for a trailhead offering other choices. The north boundary country can be reached from any number of Tuolumne Meadows trailheads and great loops would head you right back. I’d say pull out the map and eyeball a route from there. ETA: I just looked and there’s gobs of great trailheads with availability waiting to be snagged. Get out the map, match with what’s open and plan a terrific loop. “Bus back to your car” isn’t happening. No public transport goes out that dead end. Another alternative for a boundary area is a trailhead out of Beasore Rd, head over Chiquito Pass, or Isberg etc and make a loop through that area. That’s Sierra NF and I’ve no clue how their permits are done; okay it’s rec dot gov and both Chiquito and Isberg (Ansel Adams Wilderness) have a lot of availability. But the headwaters of the Merced is both awesome country and not that popular. There’s a Tom Harrison Map. Yes it’s the same Ansel Adams Wilderness that extends around Mammoth etc. it’s a big place. There’s also an out of print book by Ginny Clark.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Mar 23, 2023 14:21:13 GMT -8
But this is for you so what attracted you to the Beehive trailhead in the first place? Those interests could help inform suggestions.
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Post by thedude on Mar 24, 2023 6:55:24 GMT -8
Thanks for the replies, I will look at the options you provided! For the question regarding Beehive, I have never been to that part of the park/wilderness so I wanted to check it out for the first time. I am going with a buddy who recently had his first kid so I decided to reel in my ambitions and do a nice 4 day trip around the Laurel Lake and Lake Vernon trails as I have seen those listed as alpine lakes. Is the Morraine Ridge trail north of that area worth checking out? I was planning to head through Rancheria Falls but am not committed to visiting that area unless it should not be missed.
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Post by thedude on Mar 24, 2023 7:07:35 GMT -8
One more question: has anyone done the hike to Smith peak? If so is it something I should definitely consider? It sounds like it has some great views of the north country.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Mar 28, 2023 11:27:42 GMT -8
Wapama Fall is a spectacle, Rancheria Falls isn’t memorable, unless you count the bears that are second only to Little Yosemite Valley in their human food skills.
I’ve only gone that way to access the Grand Canyon of the Tuolumne before they opened Tioga Rd so I can’t say about the route in the loop past there.
Kudos ion your trailhead choice then! I’ve got one for this summer in the same vein:,Ten Lakes.
It might be worth getting Elizabeth Wenks book on Yosemite hiking as it’s got route descriptions for just about every trail in the park and more. It would probably have some answers for whatever catches your eye in the map.
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Post by thedude on Mar 28, 2023 19:59:53 GMT -8
Is the Elizabeth Wenk book you reference Sierra North? If so I do have that one - probably based on your recommendation during my last wilderness hike - and have started to familiarize myself with the routes and points of interest along Hetch Hetchy.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Mar 28, 2023 20:20:36 GMT -8
No it’s specifically a Yosemite National Park hiking guide, now in its 6th edition. It was first compiled by a Jeffrey Schaefer. The same publisher as Sierra north though. it’s available in a variety of formats, paperback, kindle and also Apple Books.
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Post by thedude on Mar 29, 2023 7:01:04 GMT -8
Thanks for the clarification, I will pick it up!
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Mar 29, 2023 10:08:47 GMT -8
It’s awesome. And for your totally right on desire to explore places in the park you have not been it’s encyclopedic coverage of the park: I e every trail in it, will give you a great push for that endeavor.
It’s 708 pages: gobs of info.
I’m looking ahead to a south boundary route. Something that will start in Sierra National Forest, Ansel Adams wilderness off Beasore Rd and head north into the park. Maybe Isberg Pass, maybe Chiquito.
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Post by thedude on Apr 1, 2023 5:14:52 GMT -8
I received the book yesterday and agree that it is a great resource. I particularly like the side trails as those are things I have not found in my other maps. I didn't realize the hike to Smith's peak was that long, that may play a role in deciding against that hike but again the detail is great as far as which trail you would want to take depending on the time of year you are hiking.
Thanks again for the recommendation.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Apr 1, 2023 10:06:01 GMT -8
I’m glad you’re pleased with it. Truth be told I like it enough I also got the AppleBook edition so I’ve got it available in the park without hauling that boat anchor of a tome.
I’m not generally a fan of digital books but they can’t be beat for UL! 😎
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