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Post by cweston on Jan 26, 2021 17:23:36 GMT -8
I did a trip years ago in up Sierra Creek and back via Jasper/Albino/Becker. It was awesome.
I know that the Aero Lakes/Skytop Lakes area is also highly recommended.
I'm wondering about areas with more solitude, on the Absaroka Range side.
Anyone have experience up the drainages that flow into Boulder River from the west--Speculator Creek, Fourmile Creek, the Needles, Boulder Mountain...it looks like there could be a lot of potential for off-trail high-routes in that area (particularly the West Boulder Plateau), but I'm sure not finding any beta in the usual places.
Any of you Beartooth experts hiked that area?
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Post by burntfoot on Jan 26, 2021 19:33:30 GMT -8
Hikerjer is the one who should reply here. He lives up there and has done more in that wilderness than any of us.
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Post by cweston on Jan 27, 2021 9:20:15 GMT -8
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Post by johntpenca on Jan 27, 2021 14:03:44 GMT -8
I'm wondering about areas with more solitude, on the Absaroka Range side. If you are looking for beta, the trails discussed will probably be used a lot. If you want solitude, buy a guide book. Then buy topos and find trails not in the guide book. Not trying to be a smartass, but I avoid trails in guide books unless they take me to where I really want to go. Also, the Absaroka's have great cross country hiking where there are no trails. Guaranteed solitude. Edit: Oops; read your OP too fast. Off trail means finding your own destinations and routes. Look at the topos and pick the best routes for where you want to go. It's all part of the adventure. If it is documented, the beta takes away the element of discovery.
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Post by cweston on Jan 27, 2021 14:56:27 GMT -8
Lol. I hear you, johntpenca. I like to get off the beaten path, but when it comes to off-trail high routes, I like to have *some* second-hand beta that at least suggests that the routes I have in mind are possible, if I haven’t laid eyes on them on past trips or anything.
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Post by absarokanaut on Jan 27, 2021 17:15:42 GMT -8
Aero Lakes area is wonderful but in my understanding quite popular now. CW are you friends with Nick H. on facebook? He gets around up there a lot too, lives in the area.
Let me know if you ever want to consider the high plateau/ridge hike from Bonneville Pass to Marston Pass. I am trying to loose enough weight to actually backpack over the Ramshorn Plateau from Bear Pocket to Lost Horse Park and down E. Sixmile Creek to the Ranch, probably early August. Should know if I will be capable or not by Memorial Day. Might see if I can get someone to bring a packhorse up to Lost Horse and have beer, steaks, and do a zero day there.
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Post by cweston on Jan 27, 2021 18:45:02 GMT -8
absarokanaut : I would definitely consider that trip--that sounds awesome (including the steaks and beers). Early August is usually the time my son can take off to do a trip with me, but I haven't heard from him yet about if that's happening this summer (and if so, when). I've been enjoying your pics and passion about *your* Absaroka range for some time now
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Post by johntpenca on Jan 28, 2021 9:57:11 GMT -8
I like to get off the beaten path, but when it comes to off-trail high routes, I like to have *some* second-hand beta that at least suggests that the routes I have in mind are possible, if I haven’t laid eyes on them on past trips or anything. I see your point. For example, I wouldn't want to attempt the Sierra High Route or something similar without googling it first as route finding can be tricky on those sort of "hikes". Easy to get cliffed out or come to an uncrossable creek/river and waste a lot of time and energy backtracking to find a route that works. My comments were meant for less technical off trail hikes.
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Post by cweston on Jan 28, 2021 10:18:36 GMT -8
My comments were meant for less technical off trail hikes. Yep. We're on the same page...my response was before you edited your initial post to clarify that.
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Post by nickhowes on Jan 29, 2021 14:46:11 GMT -8
The "Absaroka" part of the "Absaroka-Beartooth Wilderness" is quite different geologically than the "Beartooth" part. I've mostly backpacked in the Beartooths (Eastern side), although I live not far from the nominal dividing line (The Boulder River). It is pretty in the Absarokas and there are plenty of opportunities for off-trail, but I don't have a lot of experience there, and so am reluctant to recommend anything. Bill Schneider's guidebook has many routes listed. PM me if you want info on off-trail in the Beartooths - I've got lots of experience there. And/or check out my trip reports. Note: the "Northern Absarokas" (part of the Absaroka-Beartooth Wilderness) are distinct from the other Absarokas (e.g. in the Wind River Country). The nomenclature can be confusing.
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Post by cweston on Jan 29, 2021 15:28:43 GMT -8
Thanks, nickhowes . I think that summitpost refers to them as the "Montana Absarokas" and John's stomping grounds (in Wyoming) as the "Northern Absarokas." I have no idea of others refer to them that way.
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Post by offtrail on Feb 4, 2021 14:22:12 GMT -8
cweston,
Unfortunately I can't speak to the Absaroka side either. I have hiked across the entire Beartooth plateau and done several offtrail hikes. The area around Desolation, Big Butte, gravel Till lakes are very remote and very doubtful you'll run into other hikers. From camps along that drainage made several dayhikes up to the edge of the plateau, Snowbank and Red Rock lakes. Stunning views off the plateau down to the main drainage that the main East Rosebud trail run through. Hate the term "Beaten path". If you want info on this area just let me know.
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Post by cweston on Feb 4, 2021 15:28:05 GMT -8
Thanks, offtrail : I've never thought too much about that area. Looks like it could be fun to head north toward Snowbank Mountain, too.
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Post by hikerjer on Feb 7, 2021 17:36:02 GMT -8
I've not hiked extensively in the Absarokas although they are quite near. It's hard for me to leave the Beartooths. As Nick said, the Absarokas are quite a different range than the Beartooths. - not as high and lacking the extensive above tree line plateaus. They are generally more up and down from one drainage to another and over high ridges and are heavily forested. There is an extensive trail system and they are beautiful. However, I would think most off trail hiking (my experience here is limited) would be extremely rugged with lots of deadfall and limited sight due to the heavy forest. Still, there are areas that do have some pretty amazing views along high ridge lines. You certainly would not find the number of people hiking the trails in the Absarokas that you would in the Beartooths. Especially true if you stay away from the few really popular areas - Pine Creek, Mill Creek, Emmigrant Canyon, Bridge Lake, etc. I've taken a number of three and four day hikes in them on well maintained trails and not seen a soul. Also, lots of grizz.
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Post by hikerjer on Feb 7, 2021 17:40:20 GMT -8
Hate the term "Beaten path" Absolutely with you on that. It's a an exageration. While the east Rosebud Trail (Beaten Path) is certianly a highly used area, if I see five or six parties, once I get a few miles in, over three or four days, I consider it crowded. Of course, it depends on the timing and weather but it's nothing close to what I've experienced in WA, CO or CA.
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