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Post by JRinGeorgia on Feb 19, 2019 15:13:48 GMT -8
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Post by RumiDude on Feb 19, 2019 15:29:02 GMT -8
I have really wanted to get a freeze-dryer. I could then freeze-dry my own stuff.
Maybe someday ...
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Post by rebeccad on Feb 19, 2019 15:56:21 GMT -8
I have really wanted to get a freeze-dryer. I could then freeze-dry my own stuff. Maybe someday ... Rumi I’m pretty sure they are more expensive than one could be worth to an individual. But I hear you.
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Post by kayman on Feb 19, 2019 16:38:45 GMT -8
I have really wanted to get a freeze-dryer. I could then freeze-dry my own stuff. Maybe someday ... Rumi Looks like the cheapest one on this site goes for $2000 harvestright.com/
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Post by ErnieW on Feb 19, 2019 19:40:30 GMT -8
I would love to have a freeze drier but the numbers are against it. With the advent of places like Packit who have professional chefs prepping food that is farm fresh and freeze drying it at sort of reasonable prices I'd have to have a small farm and sell my freeze dried produce to justify the purchase. There is no farm in my immediate future.
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Post by sarbar on Feb 20, 2019 9:48:45 GMT -8
The price needs to come down first to be blunt. I have long wanted one - but $2K buys a LOT of already done ingredients. I know a local person who bought one. Like me, they are also a farmer - he's using his to preserve his harvest (he doesn't sell). We eat too much of our food fresh...lol. I can a lot as well. Maybe at some point. But for now it's just not worth it $$$$.
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Post by ErnieW on Feb 20, 2019 10:22:34 GMT -8
High vacuum pumps will probably always be expensive just because of the way they need to be made. Also you might want to check out what is involved with maintaining the freeze dryers. I don't remember exactly but I do remember thinking when I read one's manual that this is a pain in the butt.
Again you need a small farm and the ability to sell your output to have one of these units make $$$ sense.
Also there is the freshness factor to consider. Freeze drying when picked right off the vine at max ripeness and you get something great. Freeze drying something at home that was maybe picked a touch early and has spent some time off the vine in a truck and at the store before you process it might not be so special. At least not $2000 special
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Post by rebeccad on Feb 20, 2019 11:49:08 GMT -8
ErnieW—exactly. It seems to me it only makes sense if you have your own fresh produce, and/or a source of top-quality meats you want to preserve. I don’t think it could ever pay for itself just making backpacking meals.
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Post by tipiwalter on Feb 20, 2019 12:53:22 GMT -8
Just take out a 4 lb bag of old fashioned oats, some salt and olive oil and honey---Voila---meals for several weeks. Already dried.
Leave oats out in the tent vestibule at 10F---Voila---freeze-dried.
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Post by rebeccad on Feb 20, 2019 13:44:42 GMT -8
Just take out a 4 lb bag of old fashioned oats, some salt and olive oil and honey---Voila---meals for several weeks. Already dried.
Leave oats out in the tent vestibule at 10F---Voila---freeze-dried.
I like oatmeal, but maybe not 3 meals a day for weeks
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Post by Lamebeaver on Feb 21, 2019 14:51:04 GMT -8
If I had nothing better to do with my time, I might play around with this idea. You would need some sort of seal-able chamber....A metal box and lid, with a good rubber seal would work. You would also need a vacuum pump similar to this and a vacuum switchThe only other requirement would be a small heating element. The process would look something like this. 1. Freeze the item in a regular freezer. 2. Place the frozen item in the box, apply the vacuum and allow the item to come to room temperature. 3. Apply heat. The time involved in steps 2 and 3 would require some experimentation, as would the amount of heat required. If one could salvage a suitable box, I think the whole thing could be built for around $500.
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Post by ErnieW on Feb 21, 2019 15:57:56 GMT -8
Just a reminder: Implosions can be pretty energetic. Takes a strong box for the vacuum.
I got this from a Google:
Theoretical Basis of Freeze Drying
Freezing of a product from 20° C to -20 C° at atmospheric pressure. Sublimation of the product at -20° C. Transfer of evolved vapor to the condenser at low temperature. Vacuum release. Defrost.
I never thought about where does the water go when you freeze dry.
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