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Post by pspence on Aug 21, 2018 6:29:59 GMT -8
I'm looking for advice on food dehydration and vacuum sealing equipment. We do a fair amount of extended kayak camping trips and buying pre-made meals from REI no longer seems to make sense. I've started looking at dehydrators and sealers; however, I'm a bit overwhelmed with options. Hoping that someone on here can lend some wisdom and point me in the right direction. Any and all info is greatly appreciated!!! Looking to make meals with chicken, salmon, beef etc. not looking to spen a fortune, but that being said, I don't want to out grow our investment to quickly. Thanks
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Post by zeke on Aug 21, 2018 13:19:47 GMT -8
I have a Nesco, which is now selling for about $40. Others may have $60-100 models. Make sure the fan works, but isn't too loud. My sealer is a Foodsaver and I see it sells for $150. One good choice is to dehydrate your leftovers, after chopping up all of the meat into smaller pieces. If you are thinking about pasta dishes, after drying them place a paper towel inside the sealer bag before sealing in the meal. This will save the bag from having holes poked in it by the pasta, or you can use pasta without sharp ends, like macaroni. I like to use Orzo for my pasta, as I find it dries well and rehydrates quickly. I am doing extended kayak trips in the Winter, as I live in Florida now. One of the advantages of kayaks are that you can bring the meats in cans and foil packs, and not be bothered with dehydrating them at all. You can also buy #10 cans of freeze-dried meats to add to your dehydrated meal. Anything Mt House makes, you can make at home and it will taste better, but it does take some prep work at home. Nothing like heating up the oven or stove top for a couple of days while you make up some meals in bulk and dehydrate them all night long. For ideas about recipes, try trail cooking. The site is a wonderful resource. There are others, like Babelfish5. He has several good recipes for dehydrating, but Sarah at Trail Cooking has a wider variety.
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Post by sarbar on Aug 22, 2018 11:29:07 GMT -8
Zeke lays it out well.
A simple dehydrator will take you far - and you have hit that point a lot of us did - where home made meals just taste better and are a lot more affordable.
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Post by zeke on Aug 22, 2018 11:34:56 GMT -8
sarbar I fear this poster was on board for 15 minutes, and has yet to return. I hope he does come back and finds the info.
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Post by BigLoad on Aug 22, 2018 20:44:40 GMT -8
A simple dehydrator will take you far Maybe even farther than you want. My dehydrator is 23 years old. I'd like to upgrade, but it does get the job done and it just won't die. I like having plenty of spare trays to do a lot at once. I like having some mesh liners, but I still have to cut parchment paper liners pretty often. The one thing I really want is having the fan on top instead of on the bottom, because cleaning it is a pain. I've also though about temperature control, but I can't say that it would make any real difference for me.
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Post by BigLoad on Aug 23, 2018 6:34:30 GMT -8
Regarding cleaning, we probably wouldn't have to do it very often, but Mrs. big_load likes to dehydrate 40-80 pounds of apples in the fall, pretty much all at the same time. She also does a lot of softer fruit, like kiwi and pineapple. That goops up the element a bit.
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Post by resonantD on Sept 13, 2018 21:23:57 GMT -8
I fear this poster was on board for 15 minutes, and has yet to return. Ok well if they won't come back to learn then I will! And I will start by visiting all those links and reading the recipes. Hey here's a question for you. Can I prepare dehydrated meals for my lunch at work and rehydrate them in the microwave? Anyone tried it? How do they turn out?
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Post by zeke on Sept 14, 2018 3:20:53 GMT -8
When I was experimenting with a new recipe, I would get hot water from the work kitchen, and add it to my dehydrated meal. Then, let it sit for 8-10 minutes. Nuking a dehydrated meal doesn't reduce the amount of time it takes it to absorb the water.
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Post by sarbar on Sept 14, 2018 8:31:52 GMT -8
Can I prepare dehydrated meals for my lunch at work and rehydrate them in the microwave? Anyone tried it? How do they turn out? Better to boil water in the microwave, and prep as usual. You can always "Cook" it in an insulated mug instead at work
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Post by resonantD on Sept 15, 2018 19:36:31 GMT -8
I'm curious what everyone actually ends up doing.
What is everyone's top few dehydrated meals? Is it a taste favorite? Classic nostalgia made with memories? Ease of use or prep?
Mine is the pure dehydrated joy of backpacking but I doubt I would get far on the trail with that.
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Post by zeke on Sept 16, 2018 0:05:33 GMT -8
I go with personal favorites, something that I know I can eat endlessly. Beef Stroganoff, spaghetti, chili mac, seafood chowder. With just those 4, I can be a happy diner for 3 weeks in a row.
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Post by rebeccad on Sept 16, 2018 5:08:27 GMT -8
I come back to old favorites over and over, because they are tasty and satisfying (and some, like mashed potatoes with hamburger gravy, are nostalgic as well). I experiment some each trip, as well as go back to the favorites. I realized this summer that I could do 10 days without repeating anything, though my husband was a little sorry not to get some of the meals twice, and probably at least one I tried won’t make it into the repertoire.
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Post by ErnieW on Sept 16, 2018 6:58:50 GMT -8
For right now, with 6 year old twins not quite ready for backpacking, my drying is not trail oriented. With the growing season coming to an end I will be drying herbs and peppers from the garden for use until next years fresh season. Also here the the NE USA you can get really good apples for drying now. A batch doesn't last long around my house. Back in the day my top batches were fruit leathers, hamburger jerky, tofu jerky and salsa jerky. Maybe I am misunderstanding what rebeccad meant by experiment on the trail. Maybe she means try out new things that she's tried at home. I always test on myself at home/work. Unknowns about my food on the trail I like to keep to a minimum. Recently I was reading here how FD foods reek havoc with some members digestion. I also had never done #10 MH cans so I tried going several days eating FD meals for work lunch. I wanted to know how consistent the portions I divided up were and if, since I am older now and haven't eaten them for a few years now, if the food would cause me any distress. The portions were sufficiently uniform and no problems. So they get the trail use seal of approval.
P.S. Adding a little more FD chicken chunks to the chicken stew was good. The FD chicken chunks also were a good addition to a bowl of flavored Ramen.
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Post by rebeccad on Sept 17, 2018 16:44:29 GMT -8
Nope. I try completely new recipes on the trail. Sometimes I make non-dried versions at home first to see what I think (I did that with all the main-dish salads I took on our trip this summer), but often I’ll put stuff together and trust it will be good. I’ve been cooking for long enough to have a pretty good idea what is an adequate amount of food, and also what will taste good. I don’t use freeze-dried meals, though I do use freeze-dried ingredients. Those are too expensive to be messing with eating them at home. I did make good use of leftover FD veggies this summer. I sealed them in bags with enough to add to a dinner for 2, and tossed them in the car-camping food box for our trip across the country. With a bag of substrates and a bag of sauces, I was able to cook dinner even when we couldn’t find a grocery store.
Most of our backpacking dinners are too salty for use at home; I like to restore some of the salt we sweat out on the trail, but otherwise keep salt consumption to a minimum.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Sept 17, 2018 16:51:35 GMT -8
how compatible is vacuum sealing with bear cannister space efficient packing?
I’d be concerned that like the Mountainhouse Propacks the rigid vaccuum sealed clump wouldn’t pack very well.
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Anybody?
Like Zeke I’ll bring a set of four or so favorites, with a couple of experiments, for most longer routes. Spaced three or more nights apart and I don’t feel like there’s any noticeable repetition.
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