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Post by crawford on Jan 23, 2018 7:01:33 GMT -8
Honey Stinger energy chews Love those, and a trail mix I make with dried fruits, cashews, almonds, and peanuts.
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Post by RumiDude on Jan 23, 2018 13:25:45 GMT -8
One must remember that chocolate is basically toxic for humans.Some tolerate more than others, but eventually everyone will get sick if they reach their limit. Of course one's genetic makeup determines one's limit. Tummy ache is the result and sometimes vomiting.
Another reason to not go overboard on just one thing.
Rumi. <~~~intolerable
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Post by dogrescuer on Jan 23, 2018 13:40:09 GMT -8
I consider 70% the minimum. I really like 80-85% cacao. But mostly I settle for 72%, because Trader Joes sells a very affordable 3-pack of 72% bars, and I'm cheap. (Side note: TJs briefly sold a 100% cacao bar last fall. I liked it, in very small amounts, but I must have been the only one, because once the original stock was gone it didn't come back. That was effectively unsweetened baking chocolate, but a higher quality chocolate that most baking squares). I see few drawbacks to consuming baking chocolate. I am also a big fan of Dark Chocolate. 70-90%. I'll pay for the good stuff. Just like my choice of other things. LOL Best & worst Dark Chocolate Ok i found these bars in WM why do you guys go to them, are they good for energy or is it preference?
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Post by dogrescuer on Jan 23, 2018 13:41:45 GMT -8
One must remember that chocolate is basically toxic for humans.Some tolerate more than others, but eventually everyone will get sick if they reach their limit. Of course one's genetic makeup determines one's limit. Tummy ache is the result and sometimes vomiting. Another reason to not go overboard on just one thing. Rumi. <~~~intolerable Well thats one NO.
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Post by zeke on Jan 23, 2018 14:15:01 GMT -8
I have eaten way too much dark chocolate in the past, and never had any discomfort from it. By way too much, I mean several bars in one sitting. Probably close to a pound.
We go to this snack because it is very tasty, and not overly carbed up with sugars. Besides, who doesn't like chocolate?
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Post by joevogel on Jan 23, 2018 14:29:47 GMT -8
Besides, who doesn't like chocolate? I'm not the biggest fan. Definitely can't tolerate anything over 70%. But to each their own. There are a lot of health benefits to dark chocolate but as with most things, all in moderation. (high in antioxidants, improves blood flow, not to mention the caffeine.)
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Post by RumiDude on Jan 23, 2018 15:03:52 GMT -8
I am not telling you not to eat chocolate, just that there is such a thing as having too much of one of the alcoloids which chocolate contains. The higher the content of chocolate the higher the content of the alcoloid. It is unlikely you can eat enough to endanger your life, but you could eat enough to get nauseous and even vomit. I am thinking that would be especially unwelcome when backpacking. The alcoloid is also in other things,so the combination could catch up with you.
And again, everyone is different because they metabolize chocolate at different rates. I know lots of people who tolerate very little chocolate before they get nauseous.
So if you are consuming more chocolate while backpacking than you normally do and you suddenly start feeling quesey ... it might be the chocolate.
HYOH and all that rot.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 15:22:12 GMT -8
Chocolate is some good recovery food.
I like having 4 liters, 2 for my wife and 2 for me, of chocolate cocowater in the car after a week of backpacking. Typically the first liter just slides right into my belly.
Chocolate is one of those recovery foods.
After returning from a backpacking trip, is one of those times I get to eat chocolate without having to run laps. Good times.
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Post by rebeccad on Jan 23, 2018 17:36:08 GMT -8
why do you guys go to them, are they good for energy or is it preference? Ultra-dark is a taste. I think I just have a fondness for bitter things, because I like my coffee strong, my chocolate dark, and my wine red and not sweet. Chocolate in general is a good antioxidant, and particularly when not messed up with milk, etc. Rumi, I'd never heard that about toxins, only about the health benefits of chocolate. Now I'm going to have to do some research, though I doubt I'll ever have a problem. One thing about super-dark chocolate (for me; apparently not for Zeke!) is that it doesn't take much to satisfy me.
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Post by BigLoad on Jan 23, 2018 17:46:12 GMT -8
I am not telling you not to eat chocolate, ... That's OK, I wouldn't listen if you did. Well, I'd listen a little bit. Some chocolate is nice at the end of the day, but I can't sustain myself on it. I prefer nuts or cheese and crackers.
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Post by BigLoad on Jan 23, 2018 17:48:20 GMT -8
Ultra-dark is a taste. I think I just have a fondness for bitter things, because I like my coffee Same here. I love really dark chocolate and black coffee, but Mrs. big_load hates them both. She prefers milk chocolate and nothing at all resembling coffee.
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Post by RumiDude on Jan 23, 2018 20:54:34 GMT -8
Rumi, I'd never heard that about toxins, only about the health benefits of chocolate. Here's some good reading about why that is so ...The issue with chocolate being toxic has to do with theobromine, which is contained in chocolate as well as tea, coffee, and a few other foods. It's toxicity is determined by how quickly it is metabolized. Fortunately most humans can metabolize it quickly before it reaches toxic levels. But as I noted, everyone is different. Some people cannot eat hardly any chocolate at all while others such as yourself seem to tolerate great quantities with no ill effects. I only mentioned it in this thread because taking eating lots of chocolate out on the trail as a snack might bring someone who normally has no issue with chocolate to the point where they are negatively affected. M&Ms, chocolate chips in their trail mix, etc might trigger an upset tummy or even vomiting. This is especially true if one eats dark chocolate covered coffee beans, because coffee beans also contain the alkaloid theobromine. I have a personal tale of woe concerning dark chocolate covered coffee beans. As with all things like this, "the dose makes the poison". So take it easy on the chocolate unless you already know you can tolerate it. And as far as chocolate being good for you, the amount you need to take in order for the benefits to be significant, the fat and sugar contained will negate those benefits. Enjoy in moderation and just know it's a treat. I personally enjoy one or two squares of Ghirardelli Twilight Delight 72% Cacao as an evening treat. Sometimes I have it in the morning as well. Rumi
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Post by joevogel on Jan 24, 2018 6:47:58 GMT -8
Here's some good reading about why that is so ... Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that!
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Post by Westy on Jan 24, 2018 18:14:27 GMT -8
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Post by BigLoad on Jan 24, 2018 18:54:18 GMT -8
A couple years ago, I switched to the Tex-Mex trail mix or Cajun trail mix that seems to show up all over the place under different names. (Usually WalMart has it)
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