some good references here. does "dating" have any great bearing on choice? i can't understand, other that subtle design refinements, how much the products could change in 4 years.
Binoculars have improved at a much slower pace than say cameras or computers because they still need to obey to the same optical laws. But in the last decade or so, top featuures like Multi Coating, ED glass, High Density Glass, Aspherical lenses,BAK 4 prisms water/fog profing have become more common and more affordable. This is particularly so since top European brands have started to have their optical equipment made in Japan and or in China. There is one top quality Japanese manufacturer that makes most of the better known Japanese brands, some of the US brands and now they also make some binos for Leica and Zeiss. Visiting a binocular manufacturer we were shown, amongst other things, the difference between the type of glass used. I was surprised at how much heavier High Density Glass is compared to the more pedestrian type. Unfortunately that also means binos with high Quuality glass are generaly heavier.
Binoculars have improved at a much slower pace ...
i'll fully admit, just like good stereo over a transistor radio, i probably would reach my zenith of appreciation at the $300 point. i doubt if refinements of a $400-500 set would be of much greater use to me. these suggested above (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08DJ6S3PJ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1) while a bit over my budget, would serve me well i think.
glad i didn't slip into the monocular train of thought. as much as i want to be "the Complete Walker", it makes sense to tailor the gear to the job at hand.
Those Terra came out after I left the trade but the specs do look good. Idealy people should look through sevearl models to find out at what price point they can't see an obvious difference anymore. BTW, I see that they are now made in China, they used to be made in Japa.
The Japanese manufacturer also has factories in China as well as in Korea and malaysia.
So they probably are identical, that is made with the same components and machinery, but just made in a different country.
i probably would reach my zenith of appreciation at the $300 point.
This being the case, I would definitely go with either the Terras you link to, or the Nikon Monarch 7 8x30s. I have never looked through these particular binoculars, but they are very highly reviewed, and the other Monarchs I have looked through have been impressive, especially for the price point.
I would recommend buying from Redstart Birding. Basically a continuation of Eagle Optics, with similar DNA, very customer-service oriented, with a great return policy. You will receive much better advice and service than if you purchase through Amazon.
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I can't run with this crowd: I bought a 10X25 Nikon bino because it was the right price. It's not all that great, but it's all I need. I also have a couple of (cheap) monoculars, as I said in my previous post.
I remember this thread from 2017, and reading it again rekindled my interest in acquiring binoculars. Though inclined to spend more for quality, I rarely feel the need for binoculars on my treks. I do not scout for off trail routes in the mountain west, and viewing panoramic scenery without an optical device is fine for me.
My internet search led me to the Pentax 8.5x21 binoculars below, more focused on sights closer at hand -- as close as a half meter for insects & flowers but also very good for birding. I would actually make use of these, possibly on hikes but definitely more often as Mrs. Driftwoody and I sit on the deck looking out at our expansive back yard with bird houses feeders.
franco, your logic is impeccable, but I have never heard someone say “Hand me the binocular” or “I need a binocular to see that moose in your photos.” Always “I need a pair of binoculars.” So while you are certainly correct in one sense, in the US, at least, standard usage suggest the plural, just as with pants.
My aging copy of the OED bears you out, as does Merriam-Webster, but the Cambridge Dictionary and most usage web sites go with binoculars. My conclusion: use either one.