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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 9:49:02 GMT -8
I do not use headlamps. Period Ah, but you will if you start reading in bed! Nope. Miniature flashlight inside ear-warmer above the ear accomplishes the purpose.
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Post by Woodsie on Oct 5, 2015 9:50:08 GMT -8
I take along my digital camera, but that's it. I guess I am old-school when it comes to being on the trail. I have been a hiker/backpacker for 42 years. We sure didn't have electronic devices available for many of those years, so I don't feel the need to carry such devices now.
But - hike your own hike. Just please keep the volume down or use earbuds when you want to listen to your device.
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Post by jazzmom on Oct 5, 2015 10:03:10 GMT -8
Still trying to figure out the phone thing. I like having it on the road, but don't want to carry it on the trail. I guess I'm willing to hide it in the car and trust to luck, rather than carry that dead weight or give up the ability to call/text to let people know we are out of the mountains safe. This is more important because of the multiple days we are often on the road to and from trails, and the age of our relatives. But I persist in hiking without it, and would even if there were cell reception in my favorite mountains, which there isn't. I used to never take my cell phone, just left it in the car. Then that Grand Canyon hike when I broke my ankle, and got helicopter+ambulanced to Flagstaff on the Saturday before Easter with just our packs and $50 in my pocket and no phone. That really sucked. So, now, the turned-off cell phone goes in my pack. Not only has technology changed, the rest of world has also changed in reaction. Try finding a pay phone.
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Post by rebeccad on Oct 5, 2015 10:19:23 GMT -8
Miniature flashlight inside ear-warmer above the ear accomplishes the purpose. A headlamp by any other name
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Oct 5, 2015 10:21:28 GMT -8
I consider photography an enhancement of my backcountry experience not an intrusion Bang on with that, good buddy. Like most I have my little camera and my headlamp. I also bring one of my smartphones, not because I can't disconnect (there's no signal off the highway 'round these parts anyways), but because I like to keep track of my pace as it changes throughout a trip and need a clock to do so. I'm a bit too rough on watches. I've been looking for a good analog altimeter, but it seems the market is now 90% electronic compass/altimeter/barometer/GPS combinations. I've been pleased with my Thommen that I've had for decades. In the very varied terrain of the Sierra I came to find an altimeter a better indicator of position that a compass for that quick, how far up to that *(&*$#%%^ pass anyway? sort of glimpse. Should be some out there somewhere, I'd expect there'd be a market for those a bit shy about batteries...
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Oct 5, 2015 10:24:39 GMT -8
Semi-related to this topic... I got a new smartphone this past weekend (battery was dying on old one). As we were waiting for my contacts, photos, etc. to transfer from the old to new phone, the tech told me about the problems he had with the customer before me. They were transferring data, but the progress seemed stuck. Then he realized the problem... she had 10 GIGS of text messages! lol IIRC text messages show up as "other" in a storage listing so there's no direct hint that they're building up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 10:30:07 GMT -8
Miniature flashlight inside ear-warmer above the ear accomplishes the purpose. A headlamp by any other name Ah, but that is not the way I use that miniature flashlight if I hike with it. One of these days I think I'll start a thread on headlamp depth wash-out. Take that headlamp on a night hike and hold it at waist level instead of near your eyes. Your vision will be improved substantially because you have gained depth perception with the tiny shadows you create behind pebbles, etc. With a miniature flashlight, if I need both hands free, I can quickly insert the flashlight behind my ear a lot faster than you can take that headlamp off and hold it at waist level when night-hiking. To each his or her own. I was making headlamps before they were ever available in gear stores. I was night-hiking long hours every week. Any artificial light risks loss of night vision, but headlamps are even worse because you lose a lot of depth perception with any source of light so near to your eyes.
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Post by amaruq on Oct 5, 2015 10:40:43 GMT -8
Miniature flashlight inside ear-warmer above the ear accomplishes the purpose. A headlamp by any other name ...would shine as bright. I've been pleased with my Thommen that I've had for decades. In the very varied terrain of the Sierra I came to find an altimeter a better indicator of position that a compass for that quick, how far up to that *(&*$#%%^ pass anyway? sort of glimpse. Should be some out there somewhere, I'd expect there'd be a market for those a bit shy about batteries... For mountain-ier terrain a good topo and alti are indispensable for positioning and navigation. Plus it does double duty as a makeshift barometer. A Thommen would be grand. Ah, but that is not the way I use that miniature flashlight if I hike with it. One of these days I think I'll start a thread on headlamp depth wash-out. Take that headlamp on a night hike and hold it at waist level instead of near your eyes. Your vision will be improved substantially because you have gained depth perception with the tiny shadows you create behind pebbles, etc. It doesn't need to be quite as low as waist level. I wear my BD Storm loosely around my neck, upside down, and rotated all the way "down". This shines light ahead at an angle which allows for good depth perception. If I need 'head-based' control of the light, I simple put the plastic backing-piece of the lamp (for the strap) between my teeth. Hands-free in either scenario.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 12:02:16 GMT -8
It doesn't need to be quite as low as waist level. You're quite right. There are many options. You named one. I suggested an experiment at waist level to understand the principle. After that, adjust according to what works for you. The statement was made that IF I get an eReader, I will also get a headlamp. Geeze, I already have a headlamp and never use it. I've been reading inside my tent (well, when I take a tent, that is) for over 40 years. It's not like I never had a chance to try a headlamp. I'm fine with anybody else doing what ever works for him or her. I know what works for me.
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Post by walkswithblackflies on Oct 5, 2015 12:06:33 GMT -8
Take that headlamp on a night hike and hold it at waist level instead of near your eyes. Your vision will be improved substantially because you have gained depth perception with the tiny shadows you create behind pebbles, etc. Yeah, but it gets awkward when I point to things with my crotch.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 12:12:03 GMT -8
Take that headlamp on a night hike and hold it at waist level instead of near your eyes. Your vision will be improved substantially because you have gained depth perception with the tiny shadows you create behind pebbles, etc. Yeah, but it gets awkward when I point to things with my crotch. TMI
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Post by davesenesac on Oct 5, 2015 12:26:59 GMT -8
I've never had an issue with electronics in the backcountry. Maybe because hardware electronics is my career. Decades ago during the era of first camcorders, brought some of those huge beasts into the backcountry along with a large 500ma 12v solar cell panel and associated voltmeter and charging stuff.
Even 4 decades ago I always carried at least a headlamp and one flashlight, each of which contained batteries, wires, and an incandescent bulb. In my earliest days did not bring a camera so that was it. My electronic gear this year on our 8-day backpack:
4 AA max function headlamp 8 spare AA batteries single AA flashlight interchangeable lens camera body that takes both stills and video 11 spare camera batteries 4 each autofocus motorized lenses Sansa MP3 player portable headphones
For survival purposes, only absolutely need the headlamp. Without the camera gear would take at most just one short trip each summer to see the high country and do some fishing. The music player not important and some trips never make the time to use it. But it has trivial weight and size so is there if I want and greatly enjoy classic rock music. Also on short trips will bring along my Kindle eBook reader. Have no interest in bringing smartphone, GPS, or lapbook computer as I am simply way to busy with photography during trips.
Sometime in future predict fishermen will start bringing up small drones. Any experienced high country fishermen will relate there are often many trout that only seem to feed far beyond where it is possible to cast to. So they will attach a light mono line with lure to the drone then fly way out to middle of lakes, release payload, and fly back to base aka shore. Fisherman will catch lots of fish, all his buddies will be envious. Next morning they watch as he demonstrates what drone can do. So flies it out to middle and catches a fat 15 inch rainbow and they all are amazed. Flies out again and immediately hooks another nice fish and starts reeling it in. But meanwhile as drone flies towards shore, down draft wind blows drone SPLAT into lake and sinks. 20 years later another fishing group visits lake. They go fishing and catch 3 puny trout and 5 rusting disintegrating drones.
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Oct 5, 2015 12:46:14 GMT -8
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Post by rebeccad on Oct 5, 2015 12:46:33 GMT -8
Travis--it wasn't really meant to be a serious comment, you know I am very aware that any kind of flashlight will do, and it doesn't have to be a headlamp. I think most of us don't use them for night hiking. I know the ones we have a probably inadequate for that in any case (I have done some, and they aren't much). When I do have to walk at night, I find that a light held at arm's length and slightly behind me is best, since it illuminates the ground without casting any glare into my eyes. I've been more aware of the glare as a problem than the depth perception issue, but suspect you are right about that too (now I have to go out at night and test this. That means I have to go camping, since obviously one can't test night-hiking approaches in the city). For doing camp chores (what I'm most likely to be doing with a light), I like the hands-free headlamp. Obviously, this could be done with your approach, too, though knowing how I am, I'd drop it out of my hat and into the lake or something at the first opportunity. Still, it's food for thought--a small penlight might be lighter than the headlamp, and I'm always looking for ways to lighten the load (as well, apparently, as ways to light up the load. Though not usually for ways to get lit or loaded).
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Post by High Sierra Fan on Oct 5, 2015 12:51:45 GMT -8
rebecced; You might consider the Fenix LD02, one AAA battery that seems to last forever. I use the earlier LD01 (26 gms with the AAA battery, instead of a rear button the LD01 had the front portion twisted to turn it on or select the brightness) as something I carry all the time, it's not much bigger then the one AAA battery is uses and despite that it's VERY bright when I want that. www.rei.com/product/876834/fenix-ld02-edc-flashlightIt's small and light enough I still carry it backpacking even while I have this small headlamp: www.fenixlighting.com/product/hl50-fenix-headlamp/
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