BigLoad
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Post by BigLoad on Nov 8, 2017 19:35:28 GMT -8
I use a Miniworks for the nastiest water or in areas that demand frequent cleaning. Most of the time I use an MSR Autoflow, which is functionally indistinguishable from a Platypus Gravityworks. I carry Sawyer Mini as backup.
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Post by daveg on Nov 8, 2017 21:02:31 GMT -8
I use a Miniworks when I may encounter grundgy and/or shallow water sources . I have both a Sawyer Mini and pointOne I use other times. I find using the bags for the Sawyers are a pain. I made a gravity filter for the Sawyers and am not convinced that's much better. Then I found this idea on BPL for using a ketchup pump with the Sawyers. I've played around with it a little but not enough to form a final opinion. The size of the pump is a bit awkward. A couple of weeks ago I stumbled upon this Nifty Soda Syrup Pump. It's smaller than a ketchup pump and only weighs 1.2 ounces. I can pump it holding it in one hand and the flow rate is decent. I haven't experimented with attaching it to my Sawyers yet but I'm hopeful.
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Post by johntpenca on Nov 8, 2017 21:17:49 GMT -8
I have found this to be the best solution for me. I always carry extra batteries and chemical tabs as a backup. Yeah, I was six miles into the sierra when my opti failed; brand new batteries. I unfortunately had no backup tabs. Sounds like the the steripens are more reliable these daze. I generally hike where the water souces are clear, so UV treatment works for me if the purifier is reliable. I've only used aqua mira since the opti failed. Otherwise I've used a First Need. Very heavy, but if I'm in areas that may contain agricultural or mining run off it seems the best choice.
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crawford
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Post by crawford on Nov 9, 2017 5:10:52 GMT -8
Then I found this idea on BPL for using a ketchup pump with the Sawyers Yeah baby! We got us a make your own gear project for the winter! I love this idea and it saves much weight from my pack (about 5 oz). Thanks for sharing that.
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Post by Coolkat on Nov 9, 2017 5:38:13 GMT -8
I'll second that motion but I don't have the mini, I have it's bigger brother but it should still work.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 5:48:58 GMT -8
I wonder what the PSI rating is for that mod? My understanding is that the water pressure for back flushing should not exceed 20 PSI or the tubes may rupture.
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Post by reuben on Nov 9, 2017 9:05:38 GMT -8
So for y'all that pump water out of shallow streams in any season, what do you think is the best filter? I can look at the reviews I posted, but I'd like to get a bit more advice from people I trust know believe that okra is evil.
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crawford
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Post by crawford on Nov 9, 2017 9:35:34 GMT -8
Merely speaking as the Vice-President of POOP (Professional Okra Omitters of Pennsylvania) we tend, as an orgainization, to approve of the Katadyn Hiker Pro. Hasn't failed us yet. And while we would never consider it, it has the suction power to pull all the snot out of Okra.
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Post by talus on Nov 9, 2017 10:37:29 GMT -8
I don't really get what is so hard about using bags with the Sawyer Squeeze. That said, after kicking over the clean bag (I use 2 or 3 liter Evernew bags with Evernew's hydration tube) a few times I got a double female coupler to join the filter and the 2 bags. Works great.
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Post by FamilySherpa on Dec 4, 2017 7:30:26 GMT -8
Following up on all the excellent advice I got from y'all on my new backpacking filter.... Went with the katadyn gravity camp 6L. Only used it once so, but very happy with it. Thanks for all the advice.
New question.... My wife runs long distance trail races. Previously, on races over 30ish miles, she would carry our hiker pro filter in her pack in case she ran out of water and was in a bad situation. Now, with the hiker pro facing early retirement, she doesn't have a good option. I'd like to get her a nice filter system for Christmas. Obviously, weight is quite an issue, as is ease of use. She wears an ultimate direction 7L vest, so if its in any way compatible with those hydration bladder/bottles that would be a huge bonus.
Any suggestions?
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Post by driftwoody on Dec 4, 2017 10:04:17 GMT -8
After more than a decade with the Hiker Pro I decided to go with a Sawyer Mini. I like the simplicity of it and of course the significantly lower weight, but it does take a lot of squeezing to filter my typical 3 liters. Aside from that the biggest drawback was trying to fill the squeeze bag in shallow water. I quickly learned to scoop water from the creek in an open-top bag then pour it into the Sawyer Squeeze bag (I bought the 3 liter size).
Maybe I should have gotten the full size Sawyer instead of the Mini, since the squeeze rate is apparently much quicker.
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Post by BigLoad on Dec 4, 2017 10:42:54 GMT -8
I'm switching components in my hybrid system. It's mostly still an MSR Autoflow, with some tubes from the Platypus gravity system. My latest change is to switch the filter element to Platypus, whose new element (new as of last year or so) is a couple ounces lighter. The dirty water bag on the Autoflow is heavy, but it has some nice features. Those include a prefilter screen and an outlet higher above the bottom of the bag to allow more settling of debris. I still carry either a Sawyer Squeeze or Sawyer Mini as backup.
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crawford
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Post by crawford on Dec 4, 2017 11:19:24 GMT -8
My suggestions might be a little too heavy. Would tablets be the smarter solution for her? Yeah, have to wait a specified period of time, but they weigh very little. Otherwise, that pump added to a sawyer mentioned above is a pretty light and easy to use system.
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Post by snappypepper on Dec 4, 2017 16:20:00 GMT -8
We love our Hiker Pro. It has never failed us, but I do bring a LifeStraw as a back up just in case. We have tablets and liquid purifying drops in the gear closet, but have never actually used either. I feel like they will only get used in the event of a doomsday situation. :D
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Post by rebeccad on Dec 4, 2017 17:25:54 GMT -8
Previously, on races over 30ish miles, she would carry our hiker pro filter in her pack in case she ran out of water and was in a bad situation. What about a Lifestraw or similar? Or a filter that could go in-line on her hydration tube?
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