rebeccad
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Post by rebeccad on Aug 27, 2015 9:06:40 GMT -8
I mean, if you're miles away from anyone else, I think that might give rise to someone acting a little crazy. Someone could off you in the middle of the wilderness and no one would ever know. Well, I don't worry much when I'm truly miles from anywhere. It's near roads that I worry about nefarious humans. I think the more likely things that can go wrong on the first trip are more like what Cheryl Strayed experienced in "Wild": not knowing how to set up the tent and stove, inability to make the stove work, or forgetting something crucial. That's why it's good to do a one-nighter first. Heck, we try to start every hiking season with an overnighter, just to help us work out the kinks. Amazing how much we can forget over a winter (see discussion on age in the "Goodmorning" thread....). Going with someone more experienced will certainly shorten the learning curve. But keep it kind of short and easy and the things that go wrong are unlikely to be fatal. Shoot, the main thing that usually goes wrong is probably too heavy a load and poor-fitting shoes.
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wanderboth
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Post by wanderboth on Aug 27, 2015 9:16:01 GMT -8
I'd advised against doing a long solo trip as your first trip. If you can't find anyone to go with, then I'd suggest looking for a local backpacking group. Many outfitters have some sort of program. If you can't find that either, then I'd suggest doing a one nighter first. Honestly, more things can go wrong out there than you realize. Sure you understand the big issues like bears, storms, and sprained ankles... but there are smaller things that many people don't understand until it happens. Here's a quick list... swarm of bees, drunk high schoolers, soaked wood, poison ivy, spoiled food, diarrhea, and on and on. I guess... what I'm trying to get at is... don't let this first trip put you off. That tends to happen to a lot of people. They go out unprepared expecting a great expedition, get their hearts broken, then never venture out again. Has this happened to anyone? Honestly, more than anything else (the elements, animals, food, etc.) the potential to cross paths with some wack job(s) has crossed my mind. I mean, if you're miles away from anyone else, I think that might give rise to someone acting a little crazy. Someone could off you in the middle of the wilderness and no one would ever know. We've encountered rowdy groups before, never had an issue, but they are out there. Bees and mosquitoes are a real problem though, never had an issue either, but it's very plausible that something can go wrong there. Little critters tend to be more aggressive if your solo, so be cautious of that. As for cars being vandalized... If you park near a campground you're probably better off. Everyone will think your vehicle belongs to one the campers at the campground. Its better for them to think that than for them to know your off on the trails and won't be returning for a few days.
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Post by williamh4 on Aug 27, 2015 9:23:12 GMT -8
Given the option, parking at a campground sure makes sense.
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Post by rwtb123 on Aug 27, 2015 9:41:24 GMT -8
Make sure any camping gear or other valuables are not in plain sight in your vehicle in fact make sure it is completely clean looking and no one is likely to break in.
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tomas
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Post by tomas on Aug 27, 2015 12:18:09 GMT -8
I pretty much hike solo all the time. As others have said, the nuisance humans are typically found close to the trailheads, though I did once run into a bunch of teenagers who had hauled several cases of beer 5 miles up the trail.
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Post by hikerjer on Aug 27, 2015 18:35:43 GMT -8
I did once run into a bunch of teenagers who had hauled several cases of beer 5 miles up the trail. Sounds like more of an opportunity than a nuisance to me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 20:57:12 GMT -8
the potential to cross paths with some wack job(s) has crossed my mind. I mean, if you're miles away from anyone else, I think that might give rise to someone acting a little crazy. You find the nutcases in the middle of cities. They rarely go out to the boonies. IMO, you're much safer in the boonies than your own home town--no matter where you live. -Don- Reno, NV
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tomas
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Post by tomas on Aug 31, 2015 7:23:23 GMT -8
Sounds like more of an opportunity than a nuisance to me. Sharing bad beer with teenagers isn't my idea of a good time...
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amaruq
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Post by amaruq on Sept 1, 2015 11:19:38 GMT -8
There's something about not having a conversation for three days that can change personal perspective about just about everything. This speaks to me. It does a mind good to get some time for healthy introspect, especially in these days of constant social connection and instant gratification. Of course, the difficulty lies in getting back to the hustle and bustle of daily life only to find you've nothing much to say. Having said that, I have walked through bee swarms, come across bandits near the Border, been followed and had unattended dogs charge at me. I've had my vehicle vandalized at a trailhead and detected false trail indicators. My take-away. Pay attention and use your wits. There's a local backwoods area within a few hours' drive of me that is touted as the most isolated area in the southern reaches of the province. Backpackers and portagers are warned to be leery of and stay clear of grow-ops. Such enterprises tend to be protected by booby-traps (at best) and/or armed thugs (at worst).
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speacock
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Post by speacock on Sept 1, 2015 13:18:51 GMT -8
Research the total cost of SPOT/DeLorme or other services. There are connection fees along with other annual costs. Then match that up against the risk you think you have bounced off the solid care and concern you have for those at home. If you are on a popular trail (suggestion for first time), you will see people now and again. Mostly coming toward you on the way out. Usually they are more interested in a cold beer than in you. Make sure you know who is to give the right away - up or down. Don't get upset at those that don't know/care. If you are camping close to others, don't freak out if they seem friendly. I carry a small container of cognac to share - well, two actually. One is the good stuff.
Sometimes the biggest vehicle security problem at trail heads can be bears. Follow the rules explicitly. NOTHING can be showing (Not even a map) inside the car. The other security problem is where do you keep the car key so you wouldn't be consumed by paranoia.
I don't know personally of anybody who was bothered by vandals. I've heard stories, including those about the Marmot Mafia in Mineral King in the Sierra. Zero deductible on comprehensive insurance doesn't cost much over a $500 deductible.
I use DeLorme when I need to make sure my wife knows when to meet me at a trail head for resupply or pickup. It provides me with less of a sense of urgency to be there and the ability to enjoy something unusual along the way. She'd rather I am 'packing' when I include crampons and ice ax in my solo kit.
First time go where there is good signage and carry a map and compass for when you miss the last turnoff. I've gone for several days not aware I was 'lost'. It takes a bit of rethinking when one does finally figure out where you are. I try not to do any thing I wouldn't do if I had a partner along. Going up and down steep places takes more thought.
I enjoy being alone and not having to keep up with or slowing down a hiking partner. Making all of the decisions doesn't bother me. If you leave the trail and go only a sort distance, you will be the only person in the world. Make sure you heed the warnings about critters.
I dislike carrying a GPS. It significantly takes the 'fun' out of being there. As do cell phones.
Do go on short equipment and technique validation trips to start with. Try to keep your pack under 30 pounds. Make sure you know how to put up your tent in under 10 minutes, and make sure your footwear is the most comfortable thing short of an old pair of slippers. Make sure your headlamp has an adjustable brightness and don't talk face to face to friends with your headlamp on.
Having said all this, my better times have been with a 'crowd'. Not the best, mind you.
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Post by hikerjer on Sept 2, 2015 18:43:59 GMT -8
Sharing bad beer with teenagers isn't my idea of a good time.. Well, you didn't say it was bad beer. If it was Coors or Budweiser, then I understand.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 13:35:39 GMT -8
I just started hiking a few weeks ago. And even though, I do enjoy the solitude sometimes. It is nice, to have someone to chat with as well too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 13:52:31 GMT -8
I love to hike solo and have had no issues with it. I have enjoyed every minute of the peace that it provides and the time to think. It is great to hike with people but I also love the break of being able to hike on my own and be amongst nature. I have completed two thru hikes and I was alone on probably 95% of both of them.
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whistlepunk
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Post by whistlepunk on Sept 3, 2015 15:11:10 GMT -8
I used to backpack solo off trail frequently. Not too much any more. Still day hike solo off trail when I can. The advantage of solo hiking is you do not have to put up with someone else's whining about how tired they are, its too hot, its too cold, are we there yet (or others do not have to listen to mine!). 
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johnnyray
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Post by johnnyray on Sept 6, 2015 17:38:45 GMT -8
Solo traveler here.
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