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Post by peakbagger on Feb 5, 2017 5:50:45 GMT -8
High elevation? Black bear tracks have been found at 11,000 ft in California's Moose lake region. Most hikers don't think there are bears up there, but there are. Yes high elevation. 16,000 in Peru at the base of a glacier... 15,000 feet in Mexico.
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Post by tipiwalter on Feb 5, 2017 5:56:46 GMT -8
We've never had any problems with critters (big & small) with this system. I just got back from a 17 day January trip in the mountains of Tennessee and had the good fortune of having a midnight visitor into my tent vestibule. I went 17 days and didn't see a single fellow backpacker and so her visit was welcomed as I was happy for the company---(and the neat thing is, I was camped right next to her home in a hollow log and she came over not to eat my food but solely to check me out and say hello and then returned to her home). My gear is not so burdensome that it doesn't all fit in the tent. This is my scenario but then my tent has almost 37 sq ft of interior space. You can lean two backpacks against a tree and cover both with a large garbage bag. The garbage bag idea was my usual practice when I had smaller tents.
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Post by davesenesac on Feb 5, 2017 17:22:04 GMT -8
Even minus my photo gear, I take a lot of gear. Clothing not being worn or dirty is all in a stuff bag as a pillow. Cooking gear is wherever I set up my last cooking. I put a lot of small stuff in my headnet inside the tent if it can be useful. That includes all my maps, papers, tools. Much of my photo gear is often inside my tent in order to be checked and set up for the following morning as I am often up and away at dawn whether base camping or moving camp. Some gear may be in my pack but it really doesn't matter to me if stuff that does not have a use inside the tent is scattered around.
Unlike the majority of backpackers, we rarely camp anywhere near trails, lake edges, or sizable streams and many times the spots have not been used for years if ever.
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Post by hikerjer on Feb 6, 2017 8:30:54 GMT -8
I cover it and leave it outside. Make sure the pockets are open and there is no food or smell-like-food in it, the better to not tempt critters (and the open pockets might keep a mouse-like critter from chewing through something). Pretty much this. I usually use a one man tent with very little extra room for storage in it. I can fit my hiking clothes, essentials such as light, hat, gloves, camera, book, etc. in the tent. I use a rain cover over my pack outside the tent at night just in case. I always hang my food since I'm usually in bear country. My shoes and few other items are stored in the small vestibules on either side of the tent.
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Post by mrarrowhead on Feb 6, 2017 11:52:18 GMT -8
As a hammock camper this subject comes up all the time as we don't have an enclosed space for gear to get stashed during the night...or day for that matter. Lots of folks have concern that if they go for a day hike or fish out around camp they may end up with their gear walking off. So for most of us the gear gets stashed in the hammock during the day and hung on our suspension or from a line around the tree at night. Covering it with your pack cover or a trash bag is a good move in general incase of night time rain storm moving though. Mostly we just shoot for a simple out of the way place to keep everything dry and off the ground so you don't end up with bugs or critters in your pack.
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Post by crawford on Feb 6, 2017 12:20:38 GMT -8
You know, I never got used to clipping my pack to the suspension, like some of my friends do. I tend to use a toggle and put it on a tree.
Perhaps as my gear lightens up, I'll feel a little more comfortable with hanging it from my suspension.
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Post by hikingtiger on Feb 7, 2017 7:02:37 GMT -8
Hang it from a nearby tree. That's what I do with my e-frame. Usually just find a decent-sized stick and lash it to the tree. You can hand two packs off one stick that way (one on each side of the tree.) Clothes bag makes the pillow, food/stove/etc. get stored appropriately depending on the location.
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Post by amaruq on Feb 8, 2017 6:14:48 GMT -8
I hang may smellies in my kitchen sack, including stove and pot. Clothing gets stuffed into another sack to form a pillow. Headlamp, camera gear, and water bottle(s) are stashed next to me in the tent. As is a book if I brought one. Everything else is left in my backpack on the ground in the tent's vestibule.
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Post by kenv on Feb 9, 2017 5:33:40 GMT -8
When I backpack with others (which is increasingly rare), I bring along a large garbage bag and put it over my pack and lean it next to a nearby tree. This is my method also. Although I did add a vestibule to my tent and put my boots and some stuff from my pack in the vestibule.
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Post by markskor on Feb 9, 2017 8:42:30 GMT -8
Not much winter camping anymore, but having spent a few Sierra nights out, now usually 3-season, and, being a bit anal - Everything has a place.
- Similar to most above, any spare clothes (of which there are few - fleece, rain pants, waterproof shell ...not much more) in a stuff sack pillow with my down vest used as a pillow case...plush.
- Kitchen just left out - usually on some nearby rock-slab table.
- Bear can right outside my tent door - a good place to sit while putting on boots.
- Hiking poles (salt licks) are problematic. Stuck in ground with "clean" wet socks over handles - Protects handles and dry socks in the morning...or stash the poles under tent, outside edge, along with my fishing rod tube.
- Backpack now mostly empty, sleeps under vestibule...all pockets left open. Boots crash there too. Headlamp loosely strung around my neck; night water bottle just outside tent door...
- Sun glasses, maps, stash, and any other pocket crapola gets put in my Tilley, upper tent corner.
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Post by rebeccad on Feb 9, 2017 8:46:27 GMT -8
Everything else is left in my backpack on the ground in the tent's vestibule. What's left at that point? I guess trowel, pack cover, and FAK? I like to keep that latter close at hand in the tent, as I often need ibuprofen in the middle of the night.
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Post by mk on Feb 10, 2017 11:12:16 GMT -8
I like to keep that latter close at hand in the tent, as I often need ibuprofen in the middle of the night. Do critters leave medications alone? I've wondered about whether they need to be treated like food and toiletries. I mostly keep them with the food -- the places where animals were most active had bear lockers or ammo cans and I figured that there was a good reason for that, so I threw the FAK in with the food. But I like to have ibuprofen and tums with me when I can.
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Post by tigger on Feb 10, 2017 18:03:39 GMT -8
Do critters leave medications alone? Smells...are smells. They will not leave medicines alone.
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Post by rebeccad on Feb 10, 2017 20:03:09 GMT -8
Smells...are smells. They will not leave medicines alone. I'm not sure that ibuprofen has enough smell to count. And what smell is has is more like plastic than edibles. I wouldn't sleep with the fruit-flavored chewable kiddie version. Or the Tums. In griz country? I'd hang it all, maybe even including my dirty socks
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Post by dayhiker on Feb 10, 2017 20:46:32 GMT -8
I too have room for my pack in the tent, but long time ago we had 3 in a 3 person tent and had to leave our ex. frame packs outside. We just put a pack cover over them and leaned them against a tree or something, the tree would keep the backside dry, but a large garbage bag would keep all sides dry - I would bring 2 in case one ripped.
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