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Post by jmitch on Jan 6, 2017 16:37:12 GMT -8
Keene Valley/ADK high peaks are gorgeous and very rugged, not hilly as your initial post requested. Trails there can be crowded and there will likely be crowded campsites on the weekends. Still, worth seeing.
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Post by ozymandiac on Jan 7, 2017 3:26:35 GMT -8
Thanks for the comment on the ruggedness, I had a hunch it might be like that. Can you comment on the height profile on the Finger Lakes Trail? I'm especially interested in the region that connects to Letchworth Park, since we might visit it with our relatives and we could use this to continue on our own along the Finger Lakes Trail.
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Post by ki0eh on Jan 7, 2017 18:02:14 GMT -8
The FLT typically rises 500'-700' from the valley floor to a hilltop, turns a right angle to go back down, then a right angle to go back up, and repeats on about a 5 mile pattern. It is not as rugged as much of the Adirondacks, or PA, but it's not flat either. More recently worked-over portions hold to a 10% max running grade, at least on public land (on private land, it's wherever the old farm family lets you go).
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Post by jmitch on Jan 8, 2017 14:48:21 GMT -8
I think your best bet is the North Country Trail through Allegheny National Forest and Allegany State Park. I presume there are buses to Warren or Salamanca from Buffalo. As this is a linear trail, maybe you can hire a shuttle through Allegheny Outfitters. The trail goes through the national forest for over 90 miles, but I also encourage you to include Cook Forest State Park and the Clarion River just to the south, that section is well liked by backpackers. No b&bs, but there are some shelters along the way. There a big rocks, many streams, great camping, old growth forests. Cook Forest has a stunning old growth forest with trees almost 200 feet tall.
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Post by jmitch on Jan 8, 2017 14:51:27 GMT -8
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Post by ozymandiac on Jan 29, 2017 8:05:50 GMT -8
ki0eh Thanks. From what we've experienced in Wales, I'm starting to think this is too tough a trail for us. I'm currently looking for flatter trails to make sure we will be able to finish  jmitch I've been looking at the North Country Trail at northcountrytrail.org/trail/maps/. There's a bus going from Buffalo NY to Salamanca NY so that seems to be a good starting point. Could you comment on the options along the trail to restock on food supplies? And could you explain what you mean by 'linear trail'? And do you maybe know why there's a gap on the map I linked to between the Trail and Salamanca?
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Post by talus on Jan 29, 2017 13:57:03 GMT -8
If you do the North Country Trail in the Allegheny National Forest I might be able to shuttle you or find someone who can.
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Post by ki0eh on Feb 1, 2017 12:32:41 GMT -8
The North Country Trail in western/central NY State is carried on Finger Lakes Trail. North Country Trail doesn't publish maps for FLT, the FLT Conference does. So you would need the Finger Lakes Trail maps from the NY/PA border to Salamanca (mostly within Allegany State Park).
To be honest, north and east of Salamanca would look more like Wales, than south and west. I recall a stiffer climb out of Penmaenmawr to the Wales Coast Path than anything the FLT has west of the Catskills. The FLT has cows though, not sheep. (Actually, not that many cows anymore.)
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Post by ozymandiac on Feb 2, 2017 12:03:21 GMT -8
talus A very kind offer talus! We might take you up on that ki0eh Thanks, I understand (regarding the NCT/FLT). I guess we're shifting a bit in our wishlist, so that we mostly want to go outdoors and hike in a nice area whilst keeping the hillyness beneath our Welsh experience. I'm sure we won't mind that lack of sheep you mentioned :D
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