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Post by null on Dec 20, 2016 14:39:25 GMT -8
and there really aren't any very interesting places to go, anyway. I would have thought that Taum Sauk would be at least somewhat interesting, especially for a beginner.
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Post by bikehikefish on Dec 23, 2016 11:08:56 GMT -8
I agree, Taum Sauk is one of my favorite places, well worth a few hours drive. But if I lived closer to Colorado, it would be harder to drive east rather than west.
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Post by cweston on Dec 24, 2016 13:41:22 GMT -8
I agree, Taum Sauk is one of my favorite places, well worth a few hours drive. But if I lived closer to Colorado, it would be harder to drive east rather than west. Yeah, I don't mean to be dickish about this. I'm sure Taum Sauk is nice. But it's a seven hour drive from my house. Denver is also a seven hour drive. I have hit the Ozarks a couple times in the spring when the Rockies were still buried in snow, but otherwise, yeah, I'll be headed west.
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Post by toejam on Dec 26, 2016 7:49:44 GMT -8
Hiking the Rockies will make you a backpacker for life.
Hiking Missouri will give you poison ivy.
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Post by bikehikefish on Dec 26, 2016 15:47:47 GMT -8
...and don't forget ticks and chiggars, lol
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Post by Hungry Jack on Dec 30, 2016 18:26:47 GMT -8
Fightin' words being uttered against my native Missouri. Backpacking in Colorado is spectacular (spent 3 nights in the Rawah in October), but Missouri offers outstanding terrain for any state not blessed with alpine environments. The Ozarks have exceptional rivers of spring fed, rock bottom waters surrounded by public forest. The paddling is great. You can hike 225 miles of high quality trail ( I helped build some of it), camp in hardwood or pine, fish for trout, peer over 100 ft bluffs, or just wander off into the woods to find a great spot.
But if you are faced with a 7 hour drive to the Ozarks or to Denver, heading west seems an obvious choice--unless it's March or April and you don't feel like snowshoeing.
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Post by lancer on Jan 4, 2017 11:27:34 GMT -8
I agree that if my options were 7 hours to the Rockies or 7 hours to the Ozarks, I'm heading west every time. But from KC, it's 4 hours to the Ozarks and 10 hours to the Rockies.
But don't let that make you feel dissatisfied with the Ozarks, Kobe. There's plenty to enjoy there, even if it is a more subtle experience than the Rockies. And, living in KC, if you scorn the Ozarks then you're probably going to have a limited backpacking life.
If you can swing it, plan a Rockies trip in mid-summer and then get out often in the Ozarks in spring and fall.
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Post by cweston on Jan 4, 2017 12:07:01 GMT -8
If you can swing it, plan a Rockies trip in mid-summer and then get out often in the Ozarks in spring and fall. Since I started this Ozarks/Rockies comparison in this thread, I just want to clarify that I agree with this completely. It's both/and, not either/or.
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Post by bikehikefish on Jan 6, 2017 11:28:58 GMT -8
If you can swing it, plan a Rockies trip in mid-summer and then get out often in the Ozarks in spring and fall. Since I started this Ozarks/Rockies comparison in this thread, I just want to clarify that I agree with this completely. It's both/and, not either/or. Sounds like a great plan! Summer in Colorado, fall, even winter in the Ozarks, with the crunch of leaves underfoot, and then spring, with the dogwoods blooming and turkeys gobbling on the roost, make for some memorable trips.
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Post by toejam on Jan 8, 2017 14:50:44 GMT -8
Fightin' words being uttered against my native Missouri. I also am a Missouri native. Currently a friend of Bryan Conant. We need to get together sometime, Hungry. The Ozarks have exceptional rivers of spring fed, rock bottom waters surrounded by public forest. The paddling is great. Absolutely. I learned about wilderness camping on river banks in MO. You can hike 225 miles of high quality trail I'm not gonna challenge you on this, but it's hard to believe. I remember the Ozark Trail from a pullout on the Current River - a narrow, muddy, poison ivy-choked track. I was glad to get back in the kayak. When would you say is a good time of year to hike the Ozark Trail?
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Post by Hungry Jack on Jan 9, 2017 12:13:45 GMT -8
I will guess that it has been some time since you hiked the Ozark Trail? About 20 years ago, an amazing man named John Roth founded the Ozark Trail Association, and through his work the OT has become a world class hiking trail. John was a computer executive who went for a hike in Missouri, found an unmapped, unmaintained mess, and decided to apply his considerable organizational and leadership skills to fix it. For nearly 20 years, the Ozark Trail Association has worked to build and maintain the Ozark Trail. Much of the early efforts focused on constructing new sections to link the patchwork of segments into a contiguous trail. The OTA raised money to hire crews to work throughout the summer, and then in spring and fall would organize volunteer "mega" events that would feature 150 volunteers and build a mile of trail. I did six or seven of these events during this time, traveling from Chicago. It was one of the best experiences I can recall involving charitable work. I have worked with several non-profits and founded my own to build a community park, and the Ozark Trail Association is the best I have encountered. The OTA also maintains the trail through hired crews and trail adopters. By all indications, the trail is very well maintained. Regrettably, John Roth was killed in a freakish accident on his farm outside St. Louis. He was such a great leader and a great guy. You can read about his legacy here
The best time to hike the Ozarks (or Shawnee region), is late October into November. There is color, but the humidity (on most days) is low, the bugs are gone, and the underbrush has thinned out. Early spring is another good option, especially after a string of wet weather, as you can enjoy the streams and waterfalls.
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Post by kobe on Jan 10, 2017 10:33:22 GMT -8
I'm heading out to REI tonight Tuesday for my beginning backpacking class, this Thursday will be the Intro to Taum Sauk class, I'm super stoked.
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Post by Westy on Jan 14, 2017 11:27:50 GMT -8
kobe Headed to KC Sunday AM for early afternoon ETA. Please exorcise the weather for us in advance. Can't miss are gig at the Sprint Center. Not feeling good about an ice storm with a name.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 13:57:39 GMT -8
I took a few of the short (free) backpacking/camping classes at REI and enjoyed them a lot. Well worth the time.
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