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Post by llamero on Aug 4, 2015 20:27:21 GMT -8
Travis, although I will stay with black on white I do appreciate the effort required and I am entertained by the post. Thank you. When will you be tackling fonts?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 20:45:17 GMT -8
Fonts, you say? Verdana is my favorite. Done.
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Post by amaruq on Aug 7, 2015 4:53:40 GMT -8
I agree that white on black is annoying. But I do find highlighting such as this useful on occasion. I've always been a fan of emphasizing via italics, but it's certainly not as eye-catching as highlighting. And then, when you get to playing around, remember that black on white remains about the easiest on the eyes and easy to read. Low-contrast is a PITA for us old folks. Yet, back when I used to spend 10 to 12 hours a day coding, I found that "softening" the background (my favorite was a "peachpuff" flavor) was easier on my eyes. Looking at a pure white background all day seemed to "burn out my eyes" by the end of the day. YMMV, of course. I get this. I spend a lot of my days working through spreadsheets and AutoCAD. While the latter is typically known for its black model space, I was always taught "paper is white, so should the model space be."
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Post by gabby on Aug 7, 2015 10:30:13 GMT -8
As at least one instance of BBCode documentation, the "wiki" BBCode page explains, via a table, that the BBCode [b]bolded text[/b] equates to multiple possible HTML formulations:
<b>bolded text</b> <strong>bolded text</strong> <span style="font-weight: bold;">bolded text</span> This is the only mention of the "span" tag I see there, but there isn't anything EXPLICIT about "backgrounds" or "background color" that I can find.
Are you using an add-on editor to generate this stuff, or are you "hand coding" it all?
I appreciate all your efforts, but there's nothing explicit here on this thread about how to actually USE these "color names", unless I missed it. Perhaps the audience is much smarter about all this than me, and doesn't need any explanation, such as:
[span style="background-color:yellow;"]yellow highlight[/span] creates the effect: yellow highlight
[span style="background-color:white;outline:red solid 3px;"]red 3 pixel border[/span] creates the effect: red 3 pixel border
From what I've found so far, much BBCode doesn't work, or works in different ways on the various browsers and fora.
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Post by Admin on Aug 7, 2015 10:48:55 GMT -8
Let me interject a comment about trying to find ways to expand the ability to really mess up re-design a message beyond the already available options: In the early days of the cruddy new Wordpress software, there were hints that html was going to be available. In a strange twist, as moderator I always had access to use it, but I never wanted to, and it never was really implemented for members to use. However, the faint scent of html-use did waft through the forums, and without naming names, some daredevil(s) were trying to format lists.
Some will remember a bit of time when the avatars were suddenly giant images. It was pretty strange. It took HQ a few days to find out that errant html code, used without a needed CLOSE tag (the </ thing) had been skipped or entered wrong, that somehow caused a big snafu in the otherwise flawless code.
The message now? We have a nice variety of styles to use, why meddle with random outside suggestions for BBcodes? If it hasn't been said before, a core of delicious code that is left to a third party to re-think is a problem some computer owners might recognize. I suggest not going crazy to find a way to add a purple dot above the letter i.
My 2¢...
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Post by Lamebeaver on Aug 7, 2015 11:05:24 GMT -8
Cramoisy and clover.......over and over
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Post by gabby on Aug 7, 2015 11:29:02 GMT -8
Steve,
I get that. I thought (for about 2 nanosecs - my photo is in the dictionary entry for "loose cannon") about whether or not I should post that, but it seemed that all this discussion of "color names" was missing that: w/o it, this thread doesn't make a lot of sense. If you want to change "font color", it doesn't matter what the "color name" is - you don't have to know.
OTOH, I doubt I will be using "highlighting" unless it is readily available directly. Not something needed a great deal.
And, lest it be missed, I do understand the dangers from your point of view, and your point is valid. I was merely reading through threads here, and thought that this one didn't make much sense w/o the note about BBCode - how else would you use a color name? - though I am somewhat more dense than most, and may have missed the obvious.
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Post by BigLoad on Aug 7, 2015 12:05:36 GMT -8
I suggest not going crazy to find a way to add a purple dot above the letter i. Hearts! We want to dot our i's with little hearts!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2015 12:34:36 GMT -8
This is the only mention of the "span" tag I see there, but there isn't anything EXPLICIT about "backgrounds" or "background color" that I can find. I did in fact get the highlight feature from tools included in the "Quick Reply" toolbox on this forum. The screen-print below shows where that tool is located. . . . When I used that tool in Quick Reply and then went to the more detailed "Reply Box" to add other BBCode, I noticed the tags for highlighting. Those tags included the 1-pixel-wide red border. I did not like the red border, so I edited it out of the tag to get just the yellow highlight. This all happened in the first couple days after I joined this "new" forum. I do appreciate Bp2go's cautions on exploring HTML or even CSS in these forums. And, for my own reasons, I have some strong incentives not to incorporate any HTML in my posts. However, it was not I who introduced HTML or the CSS span tags into these posts. The forum software did that in multiple ways. First of all, if I use the BBCode version of IMG tags, the forum software converts those to HTML (with brackets) before I go to edit a post. There are other examples. When I first noticed that, I was a little disappointed. I often use off-line BBCode editors that employ and render nothing but normal BBCode tags. (Yes, there are several versions of BBCode.) If I post something I've written on wildlife which employs links and some rather seasoned arguments, I often save to my own files a copy of that (sometimes lengthy) post. I began doing that in some of our wolf debates years ago because I found I had to repeat those links and arguments in multiple threads when various posters employed the same tired and fallacious tactics against wolves. But since I am using an off-line BBCode editor to save a TXT or BBC file incorporating some BBCode tags, I do not want that document cluttered with HTML tags that will not render correctly in my BBCode off-line editor. So to recap: I did not explore HTML tags until this software converted my BBCode tags into HTML. Then I abbeviated the HTML or CSS into the most simple tags I could that would still render correctly in this software. Frankly, I do not want any HTML or CSS tags in posts I save on my own computer because they do not render in my off-line BBCode editors. But I find the highlight tags important enough in a few places to be used sparingly in this forum.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2015 12:47:43 GMT -8
Oh yeah, my mea culpa on the colors is included in my opening post of this thread. It was impure and simple trivia-debauchery for me to display a hot pink highlight. And I am thoroughly if delightfully ashamed. My mother, rest her soul, would be embarrassed to know I have so radically departed from my puritan black-and- mostly-white upbringing. PS: But she saw troubling signs in my youth that I would do so. Snicker. I blame Vietnam.
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