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Post by zeke on Sept 1, 2016 6:23:10 GMT -8
This video was pointed out to me by jazzmom, and I think it is important to see. If you watch it on Youtube, there are more detailed videos about some of the people in the main vid. Hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
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Post by ecocentric on Sept 1, 2016 6:59:19 GMT -8
That was uplifting.
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Post by rebeccad on Sept 1, 2016 7:28:16 GMT -8
It would be fascinating to do that. My obvious roots are very British Isles--but most of my family has been in the US a long time, and that means there are bound to be some interesting additions!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 7:58:02 GMT -8
My brother and my sister did the genetic testing and found no real surprises. Predominantly European with some Native American. I can't claim to find much emotional impact in the results. Interesting to see some of the folks in the video seemed quite surprised and moved.
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Post by RumiDude on Sept 1, 2016 10:32:32 GMT -8
There are very few people who do not have DNA from a wide range of identifiable gene pools. It doesn't take much crossover to spread DNA like that. Just think of the concept of six degrees of separation and apply it to genetics.
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Post by RumiDude on Sept 1, 2016 12:37:11 GMT -8
What with the editing, the background music, the emotions... I feel like I was watching a 'reality' show... I wonder if my genetics might be totally 'boring'? As far as I know, I'm of 100% Chinese ethnicity - my dad and mom hailing from two neighboring provinces, both pretty darn homogeneous... Even with seemingly homogeneous populations, the mix of genes is surprisingly heterogeneous. Even many African populations contain a good amount of gene markers from other areas. An individual may have DNA from one predominant area yet also cantain markers from far ranging populations. It only takes one Marco Polo to spread genes like a plague of syphilis. Rumi
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 12:46:15 GMT -8
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Post by jazzmom on Sept 1, 2016 14:25:28 GMT -8
Maybe Americans are the least surprised because it's almost an assumption that you're going to a mixture of various backgrounds. It's those of us who think we're "100%" something that are the most shocked, especially if there are any long-held grudges and prejudices against nearby countries/ethnicities/races.
Personally, I would like all white supremacists to take the test and maybe discover not-so-pristine ancestors... [evil grin]
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Post by reuben on Sept 1, 2016 14:55:08 GMT -8
How many times can I like that? Many, many thanks to jazzmom and zeke.
And I'd pay a lotta damn money for Donald Trump to take such a test and make the results public.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 15:13:47 GMT -8
Personally, I would like all white supremacists to take the test and maybe discover not-so-pristine ancestors... [evil grin] I've said this before in other threads, but there is no such thing as a "white race." That would be one of the first things I'd like white supremacists to get through their heads. The entire idea of a "white race" is an invention with no genetic validity. "White" has been used at various times in history to include or exclude some ethnic group — with little rhyme or reason beyond some goofy arbitrary expedience. "Caucasian" is another myth. There being no such thing as a "white race," there is also no validity to the notion that somehow it originated near the Caucasus Mountains. The term "Caucasian Race" was a total invention of an 18th century philosopher with some obscure notion of beauty and virtue being first centered upon the Caucasus and thence to Northern Europe. When I say that my genetic heritage is predominately "European," I am in effect admitting that my ancestors came from a "continent" that at various times in history experienced wide-ranging invasions and immigrations from far away. And barely a fraction of those movements of people are actually known to history. Who knows about prehistory? Just recently the term "Celtic" being tied to the Irish has come under scrutiny for lack of evidence. Sarah Silverman has told a joke about how, in looking into her ancestry, she found that her (great)-grandmother had been raped by a Mongolian invader. But then she sat up straight and with mock pride said, "Do you realize that that makes me part Mongolian rapist?" Yes, it's silly — as is any serious pretense to superiority because of some made-up story about "white" pedigrees. The video showed a couple people getting some rather humbling surprises, which in the end do nothing to deprive them of self-worth. We are all human.
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Post by balzaccom on Sept 1, 2016 15:50:35 GMT -8
Well, first of all, we're all Africans.
My wife and I did our 23andMe DNA. Pretty darn boring stuff--neither one of us had much in the way of interesting ancestry---mainly northern and southern Europe.
But I teach a class about history and culture. Most people don't know that Cleopatra, queen of Egypt, spoke Greek as her native language. Charlemagne, the king and founder of France, spoke German. Richard the Lionheart spoke French--and English wasn't allowed to be used in court until about 1360.
We're a lot more mixed up than most people realize.
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Post by jazzmom on Sept 1, 2016 20:22:21 GMT -8
Well, yeah, because he was French. His father, Henry II, was basically French and his mother was Eleanor of Aquitaine. They all lived most of their lives in France and are buried in France.
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Post by rebeccad on Sept 1, 2016 20:29:16 GMT -8
Oh hell, even if we were all just one identical, genetically and visually indistinguishable race, we would still find all different ways to define who's cool and who's not. I think Dr. Seuss covered that pretty well in several stories collected with the famous one about the Sneeches. Except that we humans don't seem to learn, unlike Sneeches.
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Post by BlueBear on Sept 1, 2016 20:43:40 GMT -8
My wife & I both did the 23andMe tests a couple years ago. A couple small surprises, yeah. Apparently I'm roughly 0.2% East Asian. Didn't have a clue. Many of the rest weren't big surprises (French/Germanic, Northern European/Scandinavian, some English). It was pretty cool.
The bigger benefit (to me) was seeing all the genetic health reports that come with it. Good stuff to know.
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Post by RumiDude on Sept 1, 2016 21:11:36 GMT -8
This is an interesting glimpse into the topic at hand. There is a lot of stuff Spencer Wells has written and filmed as well. Anyway, give it a view if so inclined.
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