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Post by immadman on Aug 13, 2016 17:29:02 GMT -8
To be fair, there is a very good imitation. I've driven the name from my mind. Maybe someone else can help you with that. Kodiak comes to mind for a canvas tent. I have an Alaskan Guide 6 tent that I am very satisfied with for car camping when the SO and I set up for awhile. It is very resilient and pretty much bombproof. It is about 15 years old and still going strong. When we are traveling and only staying in one spot for a night, we have a MH Optic 2.5 that is very comfortable for 2 and sets up in just a few minutes. It is also our backpacking tent when we go together.
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Post by johntpenca on Aug 13, 2016 18:24:18 GMT -8
when the unhusband forgot to use them Funny!
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Post by johntpenca on Aug 13, 2016 18:31:06 GMT -8
But seriously, in the sierra and Socal I've never used stakes and never carry them. I rig my tents with tie outs and use rocks. Take a stick and put it in the tie out then put a big rock or two on top of it. Never have had a problem.
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Post by ogg on Aug 14, 2016 10:46:42 GMT -8
Springbar tents really are quite stout so long as the four corners are staked solidly. The canvas has a temperature regulating effect. Nylon tents can turn into ovens sitting in direct sun all day, whereas a canvas tent will remain (relative to the ambient temperature outside the tent) cool and shaded. My Springbar tent coupled with an attached portico awning, big piece of carpet laid out in front, is very commodious for relaxed family outings and I don't regret one bit the extra money spent on it.
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Post by dirthurts on Aug 18, 2016 4:17:56 GMT -8
Just an update, I picked up the Tensleep Station 4, and I'm quite happy with it so far. The stability is far better than I could have imagined. It's actually constructed quite similar to my 4 season tent in many ways, so I don't think it's going to go anywhere. It stakes out, if My memory is correct, in 17 different places. It's a fortress! I'll get some photos up eventually. But seriously, in the sierra and Socal I've never used stakes and never carry them. I rig my tents with tie outs and use rocks. Take a stick and put it in the tie out then put a big rock or two on top of it. Never have had a problem. I've had to do this many times, as I like to camp in precarious locations where staking out isn't really an option. It works great. I always carry a little bit of extra cordage just for this.
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Post by tigger on Aug 18, 2016 16:53:27 GMT -8
I've used rocks/sticks with "normal" backpacking tents but you're going to have to use pretty serious sized rocks/sticks to do that with a car camping shelter. They aren't exactly designed for shedding wind normally. Mind you, this still depends on the shelter but I'd bet 90% of car camping tents are basically a sail.
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Post by dirthurts on Aug 18, 2016 18:09:15 GMT -8
I've used rocks/sticks with "normal" backpacking tents but you're going to have to use pretty serious sized rocks/sticks to do that with a car camping shelter. They aren't exactly designed for shedding wind normally. Mind you, this still depends on the shelter but I'd bet 90% of car camping tents are basically a sail. Oh, yes. Definitely. I'd never try this with a car camping tent. There is just far, far too much surface area for that to be a good idea. "Sail" is correct. It works pretty well with a small backpacking tent though.
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Post by johntpenca on Aug 19, 2016 3:46:04 GMT -8
tigger, you made me laugh. Never had a problem using rocks and sticks in SoCal and the sierra. Usually the sticks I use are pretty small. The rocks are pretty big though. Then again I tend to camp solo and use small tents.
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Post by dhead44 on Aug 20, 2016 17:54:37 GMT -8
+1 on Springbar! Pricey and crazy heavy, but you won't need to replace it in a lifetime. Breathes great, super easy to setup. I also like supporting a local, made in Salt Lake City product.
Kodiak Canvas tents are the knockoff brand. They seem to be pretty nice and are a bit cheaper alternative.
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Post by almostthere on Aug 21, 2016 16:02:47 GMT -8
California hardpan has bent MSR Groundhogs. I can rustle up a picture if needed. And some car campgrounds are real good at putting in boulders no six average men can budge, while removing extraneous movable rocks....
The nails I'm talking about are Coleman steel tent stakes. Pair 'em with a mallet.
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Post by BigLoad on Aug 21, 2016 17:07:03 GMT -8
I always carry a bunch of extra stakes of various kinds. Needles and nails are great in very hard or rocky ground. I tie off to rocks and bushes fairly often, too, but I'll never go without my extra stakes.
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