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Post by trinity on Jul 25, 2016 13:02:34 GMT -8
If I were in the market right now, I'd be looking at the Tarptent Stratospire. I also noticed that Nemo recently started selling a redesigned version of the Meta 2, I really love mine, it is lightweight and sturdy. My wife recently bought a Copper Spur 2 which we have not yet field tested. Sweet tent, but not cheap, and the fabric feels kind of flimsy. Do you carry trekking poles? Do you care about single-wall/double-wall, freestanding/non-freestanding?
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Post by cweston on Jul 25, 2016 13:16:35 GMT -8
Six Moon Designes Lunar Duo Outfitter? Might not be as bombproof as you want, site selection matters, but it is pretty solid. I don't have one, a fellow I hike with sometimes does and he likes it. I had forgotten about SMD. That is a possibility. Thanks. I do worry about a tent that requires trekking poles--I've never snapped a trekking pole, but I've come pretty close, in talus or boulder fields.
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Post by cweston on Jul 25, 2016 13:20:53 GMT -8
Do you carry trekking poles? Do you care about single-wall/double-wall, freestanding/non-freestanding? Trekking poles--yes (although I worry, perhaps inordinately, about breaking them while carrying a tent that needs them) Single/double wall: almost all of my hiking is in the mountain west, not in uber-humid conditions, so I think that a well-designed single wall or hybrid (like the Tarptent Rainbow) would work for me. Free-standing: don't particularly care. It's nice for pitch-site selection (you can try several options before staking), but not critical. My solo tent is a non-free-standing Sierra Designs and I handle that just fine. Thanks.
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Post by franco on Jul 25, 2016 15:12:48 GMT -8
cweston, Given that you use trekking poles ,don't camp on snow and freestanding is not all that important to you, I would suggest you take a look at the Tarptent StratoSpire 2. (about 46 oz with 6 stakes, I suggest using an extra 2 for the apex guylines) Using sturdy trekking poles* and well staked out it does very well in strong winds and it is my favourite rain weather tent because of the large vestibules as well as generous floor plan. It does relay heavily on personal ability in setting it up. I can do it fast and easy but some have problems so you need to work that out for yourself. *we have Vertical Poles (12.5mm) for people that don't use trekking poles. franco@tarptent
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Post by dayhiker on Jul 25, 2016 15:29:27 GMT -8
I used the Black Diamond BetaLight & BetaBug at 11,000' in Yosemite. I had an hour of hail followed by an hour of rain, with the sleet making a dam on one side of the wall of the Bug and water building up behind.
I did break my ultralight REI trekking poles, one when I first hit snow. I used an overhead line the first night which I somehow forgot, so I used tape and cord to splint them for the rest of the trip, constantly needing to redo the cord while hiking over snow passes. Never a problem with my BD poles (I did break one in 35 years of X-C skiing )
I did not bring my BD ski poles, thinking I always bring to much stuff, so I used my Hammock on my next loop trip.
Sometimes I use it for bad weather trips, but mainly used ski camping(20 oz) without the bug, as it is 52 oz plus stakes vs 40 for my Double Rainbow which does not need trekking poles. I still use it after the bug season, sometimes I use it without a ground cloth since it does not get much use otherwise.
Just one door so it would not work for you.
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Post by cweston on Jul 25, 2016 17:08:15 GMT -8
cweston, Given that you use trekking poles ,don't camp on snow and freestanding is not all that important to you, I would suggest you take a look at the Tarptent StratoSpire 2. Thanks, Franco. That's an attractive option for me. I like the generous size. (I often hike with my adult son: we love each other and all, but a little bit less close quarters in the tent would be lovely.) I could get over my trekking pole fear, I'm sure. The overall footprint of that tent seems very large. It seems like every trip involves that one camp where just finding a piece of ground to fit the tent on is a challenge. But everything is going to have its drawbacks. I don't have anymore 2p trips planned this summer, so I have plenty of time to chew on this.
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Post by franco on Jul 25, 2016 18:03:55 GMT -8
"The overall footprint of that tent seems very large" Yes it is for a double however it is easier than it may seem to find a spot for it. As long as you have a somewhat rectangular space for the floor, the vestibules can be on uneven ground/small rocks/low bushes or you just don't use one or both. With the apex guylines in place you can just let the vestibule panels drop flat although this would not work well with side winds.
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Post by reuben on Jul 26, 2016 3:22:40 GMT -8
While I like my Double Rainbow, I also like my MLD Solomid. You'd want a larger one like their Duomid. They use trekking poles, but can withstand most weather with just one pole. The larger tents take just one pole in the middle, rather than one or two from the sides. You can mix and match bathtub floors and netting as desired. Depending on where I am and time of season, I don't take a bug net.
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Post by rebeccad on Jul 26, 2016 20:34:10 GMT -8
We've put our BA tents through some pretty good high alpine winds, though no hail storms (as mentioned above, doubt any tent is going to handle a heavy hail storm real well). It's pretty stable, and would be even better if we actually used all the stake-out points
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Post by snappypepper on Jul 31, 2016 16:52:18 GMT -8
I'm a big fan of the REI Passage 2. I can't speak to it's hail durability, but it's been through a few rough storms and lots of wind. It has 2 doors and vestibules, it weighs 4lbs 14oz all in. It's cheap too, around $160. We keep looking at other tents, and we could give up a door and a little length and lose at least a pound, but damn if those two doors and vestibules don't come in handy! Plus, if it craps out after a couple years, it's inexpensive to replace.
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Post by Coolkat on Aug 1, 2016 5:45:44 GMT -8
One other possibility is to catch the REI Quarterdome 2 with a 20% off sale. At 3lbs 9oz it's a good tent. Mine is several years old so it's a tad heavier than the new ones but it's rock solid but since I camp mostly in forests and in practically zero altitude I haven't been through any really bad storms.
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Post by Westy on Aug 1, 2016 9:57:37 GMT -8
Hilleberg Anjan 2This meets your bombproof and lightweight requirement, if 3 lbs. 8 oz. meets your definition of lightweight. Has a nice vestibule you can cook in during bad weather. One entrance, but a very easy in and out for two. Price is high, but for us...overall cost is low, based on durability, design, materials and manufacturing process and product life cycle. My daughter and I weathered a 3 hour hail storm last year. Average diameter similar to an M&M, no problems. A fair number of my camps are above treeline. Returned last Friday from a seven day/seven night Wemi CDT & peakbagging trek which required a 2P tent. Weather events were common. Of the seven nights, four were above timberline. We have total confidence in the product. Another point is reduced fiddle-factor, very easy and fast to both pitch and take-down. Bottom line, we feel safe and secure with extreme high level of confidence in our 2P shelter.
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Post by dirthurts on Aug 1, 2016 10:56:58 GMT -8
I've tried the Anjan 2, I wasn't too big of a fan. I found it to be cramped, hard to get into and out of, and often times way over engineered to the point that "features" were actually getting in my way. It's a very noisy tent too, with the large mostly supportless walls shaking violently in hard wind. It's tough and light though... But if you're concerned about anything other than sleeping I would look away.
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Post by drilldaddyo on Aug 2, 2016 15:31:15 GMT -8
I really like my Six Moon Designs Lunar Duo. It has withstood some really windy conditions and driving rain. Mostly, I love the interior space and the large vestibules (one on each side). It is a little noisy in the wind.
Randy
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Post by riversong on Aug 5, 2016 7:08:21 GMT -8
BA Copper Spur 2 or REI Half Dome.
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