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Post by High Sierra Fan on Jul 19, 2016 9:49:15 GMT -8
CPAP? Did it have a humidifier component? If so the moisture wasn't perspiration: simply that excess moisture.
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Post by flyinion on Jul 19, 2016 10:34:39 GMT -8
CPAP? Did it have a humidifier component? If so the moisture wasn't perspiration: simply that excess moisture. It does, but this was definitely perspiration. It was inside the sleep bag not outside. Ok so here's the whole story, and it's a bit embarrassing but I'll tell it anyway. So the trip was a two day car camping trip with some friends. The first night around the campfire I had a "bit" of "extra alcohol" (don't usually do that) to the point where I felt pretty messed up most of the next day. I had no problems with sweating that first night, just the massive "been run over by a truck feeling". The second night after I spent the day rehydrating and was feeling pretty good by bed time was when the massive sweat incident happened. What I'm unsure of is if that was related to the night before and it's after effects, the fact that I had the rainfly closed up on the tent during the day to keep some gear out of view and it was warmer inside than it could have been, the ambient temperature (although actually colder than the first night) or a combination of all of it. I know someone asked about ambien, nope, but cpap machines probably have a similar effect of helping you fall asleep quick, and it's definitely a deep sleep. Combine that with lack of sleep from the previous night and yeah that's a recipe for falling asleep really quick and hard.
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Post by flyinion on Jul 19, 2016 10:43:03 GMT -8
Hmmm I also just went and checked the weather history for where I was at. The forecast was for sun/mon overnight to be cooler, it was actually 5 degrees warmer, nearly 60. Woops. I may have to just really be more careful about how I use that bag or get a liner or just bring a blanket when I know it's warmer. I bought a 20 degree bag because I'd read about it being a good general overall use rating and I was hoping to avoid a repeat of last July when I camped at 7000 feet and thinking it would be warm because it was summer and the daytime highs were in the upper 80's, then nearly "freezing" when it dropped into the mid-40's and my bag couldn't handle that. I had no problems with my bag/pad combo when I was in Mendocino, CA last month on the coast with lows in the 40's overnight and was actually glad for the temp rating. I was in a full layer of clothes and with the cpap then as well. This time clothing was about as minimal as you can get.
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Post by reuben on Jul 19, 2016 10:55:21 GMT -8
A 20 degree bag is going to be pretty darn hot on a 60 degree night. Other factors may be involved, but I'd say that you were definitely overdressed. Yes, using it like a quilt can help. Leave an arm or leg out if needed, or just scrap it and maybe use a light jacket or something.
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Post by flyinion on Jul 19, 2016 13:03:39 GMT -8
A 20 degree bag is going to be pretty darn hot on a 60 degree night. Other factors may be involved, but I'd say that you were definitely overdressed. Yes, using it like a quilt can help. Leave an arm or leg out if needed, or just scrap it and maybe use a light jacket or something. Yeah I was really surprised when I went back and looked at the actual temps vs. what the forecast had been. It was supposed to be in the low 50's each night with sun/mon closer to 51. Instead it was apparently about 59, and 4-5 degrees warmer than sat/sun overnight.
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Post by reuben on Jul 19, 2016 14:44:27 GMT -8
1) Altitude is generally colder at night. 2) Humidity holds heat in the water molecules (there's generally less humidity at altitude). 3) Clouds, especially low dense clouds, also help trap humidity. A large low cloud cover will mean higher humidity and probably greater warmth, regardless of altitude. A clear sky will mean lower humidity and colder temps, regardless altitude. Take it from a guy who's lived near sea level all his life, but has forayed as high as 14,000 ft. So in the mountains of Tennessee in the summer on a cloudy night you might be pretty warm, wet, and sticky (ask FamilySherpa, @tdale , and others). Even low lying areas like where cajun lives seem warmer because of the high humidity. And yeah, it can be really sticky, which is why they don't backpack/hike in the summer. Even where I live (sea level, Maryland) a high pressure system behind a summer storm can bring welcome relief - fewer clouds, lower humidity. Well, relatively speaking, anyway. A clear blue sky after a storm can be a beautiful thing...
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Post by BigLoad on Jul 19, 2016 19:20:57 GMT -8
I use a legitimate 15F bag for pretty much everything. In warm weather, I unzip it and use it like a quilt, with coverage adjusted to taste.
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Post by johntpenca on Jul 20, 2016 6:48:14 GMT -8
BigLoad, I do it pretty much like you with my WM Apache. Rarely camp/sleep anywhere temps are over 40F at night.
OP, I did not mean to cast aspersions with my reference to taking ambien and have no clue about CPAP. If you really were drenched in sweat, it might be a good idea to have the bag washed. You can do it yourself but I'd recommend Rainy Pass for professional cleaning.
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By the way, is that a boxer in your avatar?
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Post by flyinion on Jul 20, 2016 9:21:33 GMT -8
Yep that's a boxer No worries on the ambien thing.
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Post by johntpenca on Jul 20, 2016 9:41:45 GMT -8
Was raised with boxers. Cool dawgs for sure.
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