tarol
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Post by tarol on Jun 14, 2016 3:07:58 GMT -8
I would like to take my family to Mt. Rainier NP. I have never been there and know next to nothing, starting from scratch here. Looking for local intel and suggestions. Looking at late June-late August. Best season for seeing wildflowers but not encountering too many mosquitoes? We have an 18' trailer and would like to camp somewhere beautiful but not too hard to get to. Open and maybe prefer to camp in nearby National Forest land if that's easier to reach and get a reservation for. We're coming from Pendleton, OR. Routes to take - keeping in mind the trailer? Suggested campsites? Itineraries for day hiking? I have a 4-year-old that's good for up to about 5 miles. Probably spend 4-5 days there. Or maybe extend it and also visit Mt. Saint Helens? I've only been there once and it was a long time ago. Thanks for your help.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 6:29:29 GMT -8
Driving around The Wonderland Trail stopping along the various campsites and taking day hikes, is a possibility.
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Post by null on Jun 14, 2016 12:35:05 GMT -8
There are only 4 frontcountry campgrounds: White River, Ohanapecosh, Cougar Rock & Mowich. Almost all of the day-hikes around Mt. Rainier involve a lot of elevation change, so that might be a problem for a 4 year old. The hike from Sunrise toward Burroughs Mountain isn't that steep however.
If you want to stay outside the park, there are several cabin-type accommodations in Ashford at the Southwest entrance.
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Post by jazzmom on Jun 16, 2016 5:56:07 GMT -8
Not a Rainier expert by any stretch but we spent an August week there when my son was 5. We camped for the week at Cougar Rock, which we really liked.
I remember hiking the Skyline Trail to Panorama Point. About 5 miles, I think a loop. Some elevation, yes, but my son did fine (and was out in front the entire way...) Great views, LOTS of wildflowers, got to walk on a glacier and watched a mountaineering class practicing their ice skills. A nice variety of terrain to keep everybody interested. I'm thinking it took 3-4 hours. The Lodge at Paradise looked beautiful -- worth going in if only to check out the grand lobby.
Our theme for the week was waterfalls and I remember seeing a LOT of them. Son and I used to camp in New Hampshire's White Mountains and hike to waterfalls, so that was our thing. I remember really liking the Comet Falls hike at Rainier. Maybe 2-3 miles roundtrip and a nice dramatic approach to the falls (you turn the corner and there it is.) There was a fun log-bridge stream crossing along the way, too, that we have videos of.
We had amazing weather -- two weeks total, one in Rainier and one in Olympic and a few days in Seattle, and not a drop of rain. I don't remember mosquitoes being an issue at all. Pictures show us in sweatshirts in the mornings, shorts mid-day.
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Post by zeke on Jun 16, 2016 6:26:12 GMT -8
sarbar ? Maybe she can help here.
I am assuming I-82 to Yakima would be your best route, then using US 12 or Wa 410 to get into the park. Still, you'd need to know which campground you were heading to for the right route. No further knowledge here.
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Post by sarbar on Jun 17, 2016 14:52:08 GMT -8
Well....this year the melt out seems to still be 2 weeks away at least. I was up on the Hwy 410 and 123 sides last weekend. It is still holding snow well. The prime show for alpine flowers at 5,000 to 6,000 feet is around 2nd week of July. HOWEVER....it is ALWAYS buggy as all get out if there is a good show. But...if you go early in the morning, before it heats up, you have a better chance of less of them. Or go on a cold day, when there are no mountain views. It knocks them right down.
Paradise is always clogged, 7 days a week, now. However...there is a reason why, those flowers. Go early (think by 9 am at the latest) and you have a better chance of less people and a parking spot).
I prefer the other side of the park, the 410 side. One of the best wildflower loops to do is the Naches Peak Loop. It rarely fails to deliver! As for campgrounds, White River is excellent, and has a lot less traffic than most. It is also way more quiet than Cougar Rock. White River has flush toilets, and lots of shade. It also sits just below the drive up to Sunrise. Sunrise is my favorite area of the park.
Fair warning: Mowich is a great area, but is unpaved and narrow - and is a walk in camp area that blows big time. You have to park in the parking area, then walk in, to a flat as a pancake area that has zero shade....or privacy. Everyone sees you. It isn't what I would call prime, even if it does have a stellar lake right in front of you - it has rank toilets and never ending hikers.
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Post by null on Jun 18, 2016 2:33:04 GMT -8
The new toilets are better than the ones in that old brick outhouse, which I agree was about the worst I'd ever been in. By the way, be advised there are road delays scheduled between Longmire and Paradise: • Road Construction will take place June through early fall, 2016. • Work this week will take place in various “pockets” along the road from Longmire to Paradise. Due to construction work at Christine Falls, there will be limited access to the upper parking area and the trail to the overlook below will be closed throughout the week and possibly into the following week. • Expect delays of up to 30 minutes (total) during daylight hours, Monday through Friday between Longmire and Paradise. • Be Aware of Closures. The entire Ricksecker Point Loop Road and the parking area at Glacier Bridge will be closed June through early fall. • Be safe and considerate. Stay in your lane, the rough sections of road are safe to drive on. Be considerate of air quality and turn off your vehicle when stopped at construction. • Plan Ahead. Restroom facilities are located at Kautz Creek, Longmire, Narada Falls and Paradise. For more information go to: www.nps.gov/mora/getinvolved/nisqually-paradise-road.htm
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Post by sarbar on Jun 18, 2016 6:46:20 GMT -8
I should add.....Sunrise is slated I think to open 4th of July weekend. From pictures I saw last weekend from a friend who walked up the WT from White River to Sunrise, and then did Fremont Lookout/Burroughs 2 and down and out via Glacier Basin, there was still lots of snow up. In 2 weeks there will be less - he mentioned that Shadow Lake was still frozen.
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tarol
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Post by tarol on Jun 28, 2016 13:37:30 GMT -8
would there still be flowers first week of August? We'd be coming up 12/410 from the east side. Any recommended FS camping along that stretch of road?
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tarol
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Post by tarol on Jun 28, 2016 13:41:28 GMT -8
I prefer the other side of the park, the 410 side. One of the best wildflower loops to do is the Naches Peak Loop. It rarely fails to deliver! As for campgrounds, White River is excellent, and has a lot less traffic than most. It is also way more quiet than Cougar Rock. White River has flush toilets, and lots of shade. It also sits just below the drive up to Sunrise. Sunrise is my favorite area of the park. any trouble towing a 18' foot trailer to White River Campground? I see that trailers up to that length are allowed, but any local intel of the actual ease of getting the trailer there would be awesome.
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Post by sarbar on Jun 28, 2016 21:31:36 GMT -8
It's easy! White River is a very straight shot right off the highway And then you can leave the trailer to head up to Sunrise I like that campground, it gets good winds at night, flush toilets....and it's on the Wonderland!
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Post by dayhiker on Jun 29, 2016 9:37:41 GMT -8
I would reserve a camp spot.
I volunteered last year the weekend after labor day, and the info people were wrong, White River was packed, even though I went straight there. Since I was camping only one night I was able to find a spot in the first loop which was very nice. I noticed that the reserve signs were for the next night, so people did not notice this or they wanted more than one night.
A guy at Ohanapecosh about 3 weeks ago asked me how they know which spot you are in as the machines don't mark it. I am not sure, but I think they only put up the reserved notice a few days ahead, so you might have to move in a few days if you find it has been reserved. I think they stop reserving spots a week or 2 before, so that is another thing that makes it work. Someone does come thru and note if you have paid so maybe they have something to do about it.
Ohanapecosh is nice if you can get a spot along the river.
There is camping at white pass, but that would be a long drive to Rainier, but might work for the first night if you want to stop short. Also down on the East side at W-something or other there is a camp, not sure about trailers at either. I think 410 has some smaller campgrounds as well.
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I would go to Paradise or Sunrise early (start hiking at sunrise).
Sliver Falls & Grove of the Patriarchs is good for a rainny day or any time, and one could start at the Ohanapecosh campground though it is shorter to drive each's trail head.
Don't know when it will be snow free, check the website.
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Post by toejam on Jun 29, 2016 13:29:59 GMT -8
I've stayed at Cougar Rock and Ohana, which are crowded and noisy. I've preferred camping at Big Creek Campground southwest of the park near Ashford. Think I've stayed there 3 times. It's really close to Ashford and an easy drive to Packwood and access to the Tatoosh Range and the southeast entrance. Easy drive from Mt. St. Helens and the Goat Rocks as well.
I've had good weather in July and early August.
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Post by sarbar on Jun 29, 2016 19:05:19 GMT -8
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Post by dayhiker on Jun 30, 2016 7:29:02 GMT -8
Your right, that is odd, There might have been another volunteer group coming in, the whole A loop was reserved.
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I would stay somewhere else then on the first night so one could get there late morning (after some folks have left) preferably Sunday to Thursday.
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