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Post by franco on May 4, 2016 15:44:04 GMT -8
Coolkat, you can get mist from condensation dislodged from under the fly and or from penetration. For the former it pays to have a cloth to wipe the inner down once or twice as needed (I use a kitchen cloth). For the latter ,if it isn't coming through from the seams, you can re-proof it using something like the Atsko Silicone Water Guard. One can will do the whole fly. (make sure you don't buy silicone lubricant...)
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Post by reuben on May 4, 2016 16:50:34 GMT -8
First, my DR is post-2010.
Franco, I haven't used my DR in a while, but I recall that the floor walls were rather low in some places (can't remember exactly where), even with the clips. I think the walls are advertised as 4in/10cm, but can't recall for sure. How it's staked out can make a bit of a difference, however, so some of it is up to the user.
BL, the pole and shock cord don't bother me at all, but to each our own. My Solomid uses trekking poles, which require more adjustment, but in the end each takes about the same amount of time to set up. The Solomid packs quicker, however.
Coolkat, condensation is just a fact of life in some situations. I'd like to wake up to a dry tent every morning, but nature is in charge, not me.
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Post by Coolkat on May 4, 2016 17:17:09 GMT -8
Coolkat, condensation is just a fact of life in some situations. It could be that condensation was my issue but I don't think so. I just remembering sitting in my tent in a heavy storm and kept feeling a mist when it would rain really hard. I'm open to being corrected.
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Post by almostthere on May 4, 2016 17:49:27 GMT -8
Remembering that time we all had condensation. My tarp, strung between trees high (six feet off the ground, three feet over me in a hammock) and open on all sides, was wet on the top and the bottom. All of my group's tents had massive condensation issues. The person with the tarp sleeping on the ground had condensation. There will be those nights. And bumping the tarp gets you rained on...
I have also been in a tent and felt prickles of moisture on my skin. It was such a peculiar sensation, that I sat up and studied the inside of the Sublite (one of the discontinued Tarptents) to see if it was damp. It was, but not overly so, and I couldn't see or feel anything that indicated the moisture was coming off the fabric onto me. I thought that it might be my skin registering the high humidity and cooling temperatures, rather than misting.
Don't think I have ever felt anything similar in the Lightheart Solo.
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Post by franco on May 4, 2016 18:29:33 GMT -8
This is how the DR looks like with the end wall up :
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Post by BigLoad on May 4, 2016 19:19:56 GMT -8
Last time I had my Contrail in heavy rain I got a small mist with the hard rain. Is that normal or did I not seal it well enough? That's normal. The effect is less pronounced with the full mesh inner, since much of it re-condenses on the mesh. Big Load, With the post 2010 versions of the DR you can lift the floor at both ends . (pics on our web site, Photobucket is down right now) The "pole is a bit of a pain ' If you mean the folded length, that is now 18" on the other hand if it has to do with threading , it can be done very easily if you push it in downwards (so you lift the sleeve opening up and push the pole in pointing down) For removing it , there is also an easy way of doing that ,both can be seen in this crappy clip of mine : A higher lip on the floor probably helps. It would nice to have greater overhang on the fly, since the roof comes down so steeply at the ends, and raising the floor ends would also effectively increase the overhang by shortening the floor. Threading and unthreading the pole is a minor irritant to me; I have more trouble getting that second end of the pole into the @!#$ grommet. I know the strap was lengthened a while back to make that easier. In any case, it's hard to beat the Notch for fast and easy pole setup. I can get it together in the dark just by feel. I only wish I would stop forgetting to undo the velcro ties before pulling the poles out.
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Post by franco on May 4, 2016 19:53:31 GMT -8
"I only wish I would stop forgetting to undo the velcro ties before pulling the poles out." You are not the only one...
Yes, the earlier versions of the Rainbow and DR had a fixed grommet at the pole ends. That became a problem when the tent shrunk in the heat. Since then there is a strap there to regulate the tension.
There is no immediate plan to change the SS2 .
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Post by Westy on May 4, 2016 20:11:33 GMT -8
Still struggling myself. Short List - Force 10 Carbon Helium 100
- Terra Nova Laser Photon 1
- Tarptent Moment DW w/optional solid interior
- Hilleberg Enan 2016 w/custom modifications- Rainy Pass
- Hilleberg Niak
Factors - Packability
- Functionality - inclement weather
- Set-up and take down, speed. least fiddle factor
- Weight
Sussing out how to personally compare, multiple tents for simultaneous - Set-up and look-see.
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Post by BigLoad on May 4, 2016 20:28:08 GMT -8
Yes, the earlier versions of the Rainbow and DR had a fixed grommet at the pole ends. That became a problem when the tent shrunk in the heat. Since then there is a strap there to regulate the tension. And I set up in the heat often enough to notice. I've considered cutting my strap and sewing in a foldable extension that I could close with mini 'biner or something like that.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 4:10:48 GMT -8
Oi! I like that about the Duplex. Heat/cold does not cause the tent to streatch/shrink.
From reading PCT Trail Journals I was able to learn how other single wall users used location to eliminate/reduce moisture build up on the inner tent wals. Putting their written experiences into practice we learned what worked for us and by the time we did the ONP coast trip we had inner wall condensation management down pat.
Cuban fiber was used for sails before it was used for tents so the fabrics ability to stand up to strong winds was proven. Zpacks used tent design to finalize the Duplexes ability to take the rigours of foul weather.
I also like that Cuban fabric does not wet from the rain. A few shakes of the tent, under a tree, removes any rain water. Elimnating the need to pack away a wet and water heavy tent.
My Duplex packs down small and with a weight of 1.31 pounds for a two person tent is very easy to carry.
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