sarbar
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Post by sarbar on Apr 18, 2024 10:59:54 GMT -8
Most of us don't have the prettiest food to eat in the backcountry for sure. As long as you can eat it, and it fuels you...well...there's always the burger plate on the way home to top you off ;-)
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Post by marmotstew on Apr 18, 2024 11:07:27 GMT -8
Jeez, I’m chef Boyardee on the trail. I’ll boil a couple eggs at home and eat for the first dinner. Then it’s dehydrated food, sausage logs, bars, trail mixes. I’ll bring a couple of apples with. And I actually started making jerky which is pretty easy.
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Post by swiftdream on Apr 18, 2024 11:24:33 GMT -8
swiftdream What windscreen do you use? I keep trying to cook well at home, with limited success. Outdoors, I count on being so tired and hungry that I'm willing to eat anything. Not sure if I'll ever be Instagram-Ready, but maybe a muffin or some other tasty thing will be. Very wise choice cooking at home. That’s the best plan then do it with your backpacking kitchen gear at home. But as you say everything tastes better after you’ve been hiking. We did a super fine blast of a hike earlier this morning and girlfriend is making her gourmet grilled cheese with tomato soup for lunch here back at the ranch. For windscreen I start with a stove we have been using for twenty years, the Snow Peak Gigapower, got the newer, lighter version that also modulates lower a couple years ago. Then the OEM windscreen which isn’t really that good of a windscreen by itself so I added an upper titanium foil windscreen that totally protects the flame in any weather. The upper wraps the mug and held in place with the home sewed cozie so the drink stays hot and the mug doesn’t burn the hands. Everything, the stove, fuel canister, lighter and knife goes inside the mug for travel and the lid fully closes. Used it this morning up in the wilderness to brew some Ceylon green tea with natural peach flavoring to go with the crispy pecans girlfriend makes in her Excalibur dehydrator, some seriously good chocolate, blueberries and strawberries. this is how it packs, almost the same volume as the mug
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Post by dustin on Apr 18, 2024 12:04:23 GMT -8
swiftdream Omygosh! I have one of those SP windscreens and an old Gigapower. Couple years ago, I tried something similar with a screen cut from a soda can. I wanted to work out how to boil efficiently in a narrow vessel like a bottle or the Soto cup I like for coffee. Thought it might be good for day-hikes, quick overnighters... I set it up on the metal deck table and the aluminum windscreen was so thin it started to melt and wave in the breeze. That's when I realized I had made one of the classic mistakes: stove on a table above my lap. I jumped up first, then turned off the stove as fast as I could. Good to know that titanium will work for that. Nice Spyderco, BTW. I live near the Spyderco factory outlet store, but I only have one.
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Post by ErnieW on Apr 18, 2024 12:14:38 GMT -8
I will need a good method to clean the pot if I mess up on trail: gravel, sand, sticks, harsh language, lasers... acceptance. I have resorted to bringing gallon zip lock bags then throwing the dirty dishes in there and worrying about cleaning when I get home. The lightweight non stick fry pans actually aren't hard to clean. The Outback oven is a good oven once you learn it. My favorite was Betty Crocker pizza dough mix and make pizza. It's a water only mix and I would mix it right in the pan. No other mess. I also brought a small Nalgene of pizza sauce, a small bag of shredded mozzarella and usually sliced pepperoni (they are also all foods that don't need cooking or water to eat if need be). I did also bring a 12" aluminum camp plate for cutting and serving. There is also water only cake and cornbread mixes that it can do a good job cooking up. If I wanted to go lighter I would bring just the fry pan, a Ziplock bag of water only pancake mix and a small jar of Ghee and make pancakes. I mix the batter right in the bag. The idea was real food with light dry ingredients and local water. Food with water weight gets heavy fast for multi-day trips.
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Post by swiftdream on Apr 18, 2024 12:37:39 GMT -8
swiftdream Omygosh! I have one of those SP windscreens and an old Gigapower. Couple years ago, I tried something similar with a screen cut from a soda can. I wanted to work out how to boil efficiently in a narrow vessel like a bottle or the Soto cup I like for coffee. Thought it might be good for day-hikes, quick overnighters... I set it up on the metal deck table and the aluminum windscreen was so thin it started to melt and wave in the breeze. That's when I realized I had made one of the classic mistakes: stove on a table above my lap. I jumped up first, then turned off the stove as fast as I could. Good to know that titanium will work for that. Nice Spyderco, BTW. I live near the Spyderco factory outlet store, but I only have one. The titanium windscreen has been used for at least a couple hundred times mostly on low flame but I did try it on full blast once. It’s going to be very long lasting. .1mm thick works well. Mine is two piece so it’s adjustable. It’s at Amazon and here is the description. 0.1mm x 200mm x 300mm Titanium Foil Plate Sheet TA2 99% Purity a.co/d/9Fxlvz9The setup will heat 500 ml oh water to way too hot to drink using 5 grams of fuel in high winds. It is a real fuel miser. Green tea shouldn’t be boiled but just under. I’m jealous of your close access to Spyderco. You can actually check out and choose so you get a more perfect copy.
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Post by dustin on Apr 18, 2024 13:32:03 GMT -8
ErnieW I like your ideas for pancakes, and food that can be eaten cold, if needed. swiftdream Good to know the titanium will hold up. I took my son to get a Spyderco on his 21st birthday. It was nice to be able to look at and handle the knives because he has small hands and he's a lefty. Premium service, especially at the register.
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Post by trinity on Apr 18, 2024 14:05:29 GMT -8
dustin , are you familiar with Flat Cat Gear? Jon sells systems for cooking and baking, though mostly titanium and alcohol stove based. I use his Ocelot windscreens for my Pocket Rocket Deluxe and Kovea Spider. These are great windscreens, highly effective and lightweight. I am a little embarrassed to say that I own 3 Spyderco knives, a Ladybug that goes in my emergency kit, a Dragonfly 2 which is a great EDC, and a Delica, for when I need (from my perspective) a BAK (Big Ass Knife). swiftdream , that is a really sweet looking kit. What material did you use for the cozy?
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Post by swiftdream on Apr 18, 2024 15:12:53 GMT -8
I am a little embarrassed to say that I own 3 Spyderco knives, a Ladybug that goes in my emergency kit, a Dragonfly 2 which is a great EDC, and a Delica, for when I need (from my perspective) a BAK (Big Ass Knife). swiftdream , that is a really sweet looking kit. What material did you use for the cozy? Trinity, I really like your knife choices. Once I got a Dragonfly, a small folder weighing 1.16 oz, it took over every knife need outside the kitchen. One is always in the hiking gear. After that my Delica did seem like a big honking knife. I’m totally blown away with what the Dragonfly can handle. The cozie is the end of a sleeve from an old Nike Fleece I found in a thrift shop that looked brand new at the time. Wore it for years and cut the end of the sleeve off to the right length, cut a round piece out of the body and hand stitched it while inside out. Turned it out right side and it looks okay and works very well. The fleece has a thermal weave that’s different from most. It’s not as effective as Reflectix but is prefect for beverages and light soups. To add about the Gigapower stove, its shorter than some of the current crop of top stoves so it lays flat on the bottom of the 650 titanium mug.
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Post by trinity on Apr 18, 2024 17:33:10 GMT -8
I’m totally blown away with what the Dragonfly can handle. Agreed. I think this is the perfect size, and the Dragonfly is just an all-around great blade. My first Spyderco was a Ladybug, which is great, but a little too small for most of my purposes. Then bought a Delica, which at the time was a popular backpacking knife, but too big for my taste. Finally bought a Dragonfly and, you guessed it, just right. Thanks for the info on the cozy. I may try to do something similar to fit my Snowpeak Trek 700. Great for boiling water and drinking coffee, but sure loses heat quickly.
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Post by Sleeping Bag Man! on Apr 18, 2024 21:18:00 GMT -8
My cooking kit:
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Post by dustin on Apr 19, 2024 5:41:58 GMT -8
trinity I have seen FlatCatGear's screens and baking videos. That's what inspired me to try baking. I'll probably grab one of his kits after I've settled on the pot and stove combo I'll use most. Sleeping Bag Man! Nice knife. I'm glad to see it locks, because that blade swinging back at your hand... And is that an Exped Wallcreeper in your avatar? I have an old one, but mine is orange.
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Post by reuben on Apr 19, 2024 5:55:45 GMT -8
Mystery meat. Or maybe a leg from a mannequin. Not healthy no matter how you slice it.
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Post by ErnieW on Apr 19, 2024 6:19:19 GMT -8
Some people may have too much time on their hands:
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Post by Sleeping Bag Man! on Apr 19, 2024 6:32:02 GMT -8
Sleeping Bag Man! Nice knife. I'm glad to see it locks, because that blade swinging back at your hand... And is that an Exped Wallcreeper in your avatar? I have an old one, but mine is orange. It’s a Feathered Friends…the equivalent bag now is called “Winter Wren”, but mine doesn’t have quite as much down…I think mine was just called “Wren” back in the day. 30dg I think. My nunchucks are 11” G-Force Dragon Metal Mayhems, Chuck Norris Edition.
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